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Schakal
07-12-2009, 23:53
did anyone have extra difficulties fitting inner poly bushes on to the arb ?
i have a renault 9 arb here which is supposed to be 23mm in diameter
hence i bought some 23mm poly bushes from a renault 19 16v/clio williams .

however i am having real big problems fitting the inner bushes , i have
just measured the arb (using digital caliper tool )where the inner bushes go
and it measures about 24mm :eek: and thats bare metal ,so paint thickness is
not an issue either .

any ideas/input appreciated :agree:

Shane P
08-12-2009, 00:01
Absolutely plaster the bushes and antiroll bar in as much grease as possible, place a bar against one side of the bush, take a hammer and bat it into position smearing both sides with grease as it moves along :)

Schakal
08-12-2009, 00:23
Absolutely plaster the bushes and antiroll bar in as much grease as possible, place a bar against one side of the bush, take a hammer and bat it into position smearing both sides with grease as it moves along :)


i wondered what that sachet of grease was for lol :)
seriously though , does the grease actually help the bush get a little more
flexible ??

baby blue 5
08-12-2009, 13:58
does it help if your lady freind is wet during sex :scared:

J$£5GTT
08-12-2009, 15:10
i wondered what that sachet of grease was for lol :)
seriously though , does the grease actually help the bush get a little more
flexible ??


yep!

:agree:

Schakal
08-12-2009, 17:01
yep!

:agree:


nice one ,i better man up a notch than :)
cheers :agree:

Andrew Cooke
08-12-2009, 17:46
does it help if your lady freind is wet during sex :scared:

depends upon your aim/eyesight :cool:

Schakal
09-12-2009, 17:25
ok i am still having problems with this :(
this surely cant be right ??

http://www.rtoc.org/boards/picture.php?albumid=498&pictureid=9528

JRP
09-12-2009, 17:29
The black clip type thing i found i had to change as it had become out of shape.

Not alot from renault for the 5, id assume it would be the same for the 9.

is the depth of the bush the same? compare it to the old one, and make allowence for 20 years squishing :)

gtmatt
09-12-2009, 17:37
they are either the wrong type of bushe , that was the problem i had , so i ordered the ones from flo flex , or the bracket is out of shape ,but by the looks of that photo its defo 100% the wrong bushe mate:)

you need the next size down

Alastair
09-12-2009, 17:55
They look right to me, the diameter of the hole looks fine as the bush closes fully. These are always a pig to fit. Boil a kettle full of water then plop your bushes in for a couple of minutes, you'll find they are a lot easier to fit. A big pair of mole grips to clamp them up enough (or a secon person) to get the bolt in goes a long way too. Percivere mate and they will be fine.

Pete@Backyard Racing
09-12-2009, 23:46
gt matts right uve got the later type bush and an early type subframe and arb bracket. i had this problem bout 2yrs ago and matt had the same prob 2. get sum samller early type arb bushes from flo flex on ebay or superflex. the powerflex one uve got is only 4 later type arb bracket and subframe same as early clios.

Alex
10-12-2009, 07:40
I've had the exactly the same problem with the bushes I got (from Rally Design) I ended up having to get the PH1 bushes. :)

i l k e r
10-12-2009, 08:02
hi Evren,

I had the same problem with my 11 and I ended up grinding some meat off of the bushes, it worked a treat :agree:

Bigfoot
10-12-2009, 08:10
I've had the exactly the same problem with the bushes I got (from Rally Design) I ended up having to get the PH1 bushes. :)

Same here, has anyone actually got the phase 2 bushes on their phase 2?

Schakal
10-12-2009, 09:18
i have just checked flo-flex and super-flex websites , they dont seem to
have bushes listed for a RENAULT 9 1.7 GTX
did renault 5 gtt ever come with 24mm ARB ?

I also have a later type subframe here out of a megane (1997)
the bushes fit perfectly fine on that using the megane clamps .
subframe is similar to the renault 9 apart from 1 major difference .

the mounting point at the o/s rear on meggy subframe has got a rubber bush
built in it where as renault 9 subframe is solid at all 4 mountings .
i can fix this with some chopping and welding i guess .

does anyone know why they used a bushed mounting on later subframes ??
i have seen this on 19s and clios as well :scratch:

Schakal
10-12-2009, 09:25
hi Evren,

I had the same problem with my 11 and I ended up grinding some meat off of the bushes, it worked a treat :agree:

hi mate , what did you grind them down with ?
i heard from superflex guy that polyurethane melts when exposed to
heat etc

i l k e r
10-12-2009, 13:28
hi mate , what did you grind them down with ?
i heard from superflex guy that polyurethane melts when exposed to
heat etc

I used a bench grinder thingy that's got a sandpaper on it :scratch:

this:

http://www.clarkeinternational.com/shop/product/details/cbg6sb-6in-bench-grinder-with-sander/path/

if you take your time and don't grind it down in 2 seconds it won't melt.

car.crash
10-12-2009, 13:38
Cgb sent me the ph1 when I needed the bigger phase 2. Just gave away 2 sets of phase 1 inner as I had no use for them and now have the fatter phase 2 ones to fit.

Schakal
10-12-2009, 16:16
i think i will just not fokk around and use a later subframe :p

gtmatt
10-12-2009, 19:14
i think i will just not fokk around and use a later subframe :p

just order the flo flex ones mate , they are in wales rhyl , bout £15 its defo the early frame u have:)

Schakal
10-12-2009, 19:31
just order the flo flex ones mate , they are in wales rhyl , bout £15 its defo the early frame u have:)


are they for a 23mm anti roll bar though ?

gtmatt
10-12-2009, 21:26
are they for a 23mm anti roll bar though ?

cnt remember can tell u on sat mate , but mite be late then sorry

gtmatt
10-12-2009, 21:27
it was the same problem as i had though:)

Schakal
10-12-2009, 21:47
i will give them a call to confirm dimensions etc actually .
it would be shame to use a different subframe as i allready welded
mine up for strength etc .

gtmatt
10-12-2009, 21:54
i will give them a call to confirm dimensions etc actually .
it would be shame to use a different subframe as i allready welded
mine up for strength etc .

u wnt mate ,im sure u will be ok :)