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djinuk
28-11-2009, 19:01
I know this topics been covered before but basically im looking at a forge front mount with pipework however i want to know if it will fit with my standard bumper, i dont want to cut gaping holes etc , i need it to look like it grew there.
5alldaway
28-11-2009, 23:22
have a look on forges website panty sniffer!
Adam L
28-11-2009, 23:30
Have you seen the fitting instructions for the Forge front mount on the 5? Unprofessional comes to mind. Not to mention Forge make pretty **** qaulity parts. Intercooler cores don't cool sufficiently and their actuators are pretty piss poor too.
5alldaway
28-11-2009, 23:35
Have you seen the fitting instructions for the Forge front mount on the 5? Unprofessional comes to mind. Not to mention Forge make pretty **** qaulity parts. Intercooler cores don't cool sufficiently and their actuators are pretty piss poor too.

hey calm down there love, i have forge parts on my car, cant complain :D
Big Supes
28-11-2009, 23:54
Well that's put me off buying their alloy radiator. :laugh:
Adam L
29-11-2009, 00:02
Put it this way... Their actuators are detachable, to replace the **** diaphrams they use, says alot really.

Forge and Collins are the only actuators i've seen leak when I test them, this is next to 20+ year old standard Renault 5 actuators, which still hold their pressure.
Scoff
29-11-2009, 00:35
Put it this way... Their actuators are detachable, to replace the **** diaphrams they use, says alot really.

Forge and Collins are the only actuators i've seen leak when I test them, this is next to 20+ year old standard Renault 5 actuators, which still hold their pressure.

indeed, show me a serious racer that uses either of those pieces of junk ;)
Mart
29-11-2009, 07:42
I'd rate them in the same league as Pace Products; ie, :crap:
Jimmy_GTT
29-11-2009, 08:21
I have fitted the Megane 2 Turbo IC behind the grill. It was not easy but cools well and the car has its original look. Do not have to modify the original bumper.

http://www.renaultclub.hu/hutok.jpg
Mart
29-11-2009, 08:32
Hmm, might not be so good for radiator efficiency though...
Jimmy_GTT
29-11-2009, 08:46
Hmm, might not be so good for radiator efficiency though...

I have the radiator from a R5 Diesel. It is 8cm wider. Cools perfectly.
Spooky
29-11-2009, 10:48
I've got forge fmic on my car. Pile of **** is an understatement.

Air charge temps are poor on boost and cooling recovery is ****e.
James5
29-11-2009, 11:05
I've squeezed an intercooler behind the oe grill and run an oe gtt rad and have no problrms with coolant cooling although oil goes through an oil cooler.
http://emob252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/GTTJames/C12%20GTT/Intercooler.jpg

chris ska fidos got a raider has got this to fit behind oe bumper although the oe bumper rear had to have a little skim to fit
http://emob252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/GTTJames/Chris%20R5/Mounted.jpg

http://emob252.photobucket.com/albums/hh25/GTTJames/Chris%20R5/Photo0112.jpg
5alldaway
29-11-2009, 11:25
I have fitted the Megane 2 Turbo IC behind the grill. It was not easy but cools well and the car has its original look. Do not have to modify the original bumper.

http://www.renaultclub.hu/hutok.jpg

like the look of this one :agree:
Mart
29-11-2009, 14:49
I have the radiator from a R5 Diesel. It is 8cm wider. Cools perfectly.

On track?
Jimmy_GTT
29-11-2009, 15:33
On track?

Haven't tried yet on track. Only a bit hill climbing in the summer (30 degrees). But it was perfect. (it was never so good before)
The surface is 25% bigger than the std. (thickness is the same) And it was not too expensive.
djinuk
30-11-2009, 07:50
ive actually just sold a megane intercooler on ebay like 2 days ago, hmm ill manage to get it to fit i think.
Jimmy_GTT
30-11-2009, 10:02
ive actually just sold a megane intercooler on ebay like 2 days ago, hmm ill manage to get it to fit i think.

If you would try to fit it I can help you.
It is not easy. You need a 1cm shorter belt. Have to cut from the actuator upper holder, have to modify a bit the driver side bonnet holder....

http://www.renaultclub.hu/huto2.jpg
James5
30-11-2009, 19:52
If you would try to fit it I can help you.
It is not easy. You need a 1cm shorter belt. Have to cut from the actuator upper holder, have to modify a bit the driver side bonnet holder....

http://www.renaultclub.hu/huto2.jpg

Campus pulley and belt matey :wink: I run a similar run to you and use the campus parts
djinuk
30-11-2009, 19:54
its cool, ive actually already sold that intercooler :)
BlueFish5Gt
02-12-2009, 08:14
How aboyt this one?Is it efficient enough?

http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=det&pt=52_62_130_185&p=635&id=proalloy
Markey Mark (BD)
02-12-2009, 18:44
How aboyt this one?Is it efficient enough?

http://www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=det&pt=52_62_130_185&p=635&id=proalloy

Places the rad way to close to the engine for my liking
baby blue 5
02-12-2009, 19:05
mine has a forge fmic, seems ok but dont have an inlet temp gauge to tell how effcient it is, am also going to remove some of the cross member so its sits further in and i can run a standard bumper

http://www.renault5gtturbo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6039
baby blue 5
02-12-2009, 19:09
I have the radiator from a R5 Diesel. It is 8cm wider. Cools perfectly.


didnt know they did an r5 diesel? where did you get the rad from?
Jimmy_GTT
02-12-2009, 19:45
didnt know they did an r5 diesel? where did you get the rad from?

Here in Hungary nearly all the bigger auto parts shops sells them. I have bought a nissens one. It was about 80-90£ new. But it doesn't have an oil cooler in it.
TrixNFlix
02-12-2009, 20:33
Is this the diesel rad your talking about? anyone know if this fits ok?

http://www.radiatorshop.net/store.php?crn=3516&rn=10985&action=show_detail
Jimmy_GTT
02-12-2009, 20:42
Is this the diesel rad your talking about? anyone know if this fits ok?

http://www.radiatorshop.net/store.php?crn=3516&rn=10985&action=show_detail


Exactly.
You have to lengthen the upper radiator water hose.
And it won't fit with a std. intercooler.
TrixNFlix
02-12-2009, 20:49
Cheers Jimmy. :agree:
raj
02-12-2009, 20:55
ive tried both the extra van 1.9d rad (http://www.radiatorshop.net/store.php?crn=3026&rn=11228&action=show_detail) and the clio 1.9d rad (http://www.radiatorshop.net/store.php?crn=2810&rn=11153&action=show_detail), the clio one is smaller that the extra van one. they both cool ok but you have to do abit of chopping and triming of bits to get them to fit snug.

regarding the intercooler, mine is pretty big you can see here (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=62) it CAN be angled to fit behind the front bumper, i just couldnt be bothered messing around to much so i chopped the bumper[abit too much:crap:] but hey.
Jimmy_GTT
02-12-2009, 21:01
ive tried both the extra van 1.9d rad and the clio 1.9d rad, the clio one is smaller that the extra van one. they both cool ok but you have to do abit of chopping and triming of bits to get them to fit snug.

regarding the intercooler, mine is pretty big you can see here (http://www.rtoc.org/boards/member.php?u=62) it CAN be angled to fit behind the front bumper, i just couldnt be bothered messing around to much so i chopped the bumper[abit too much:crap:] but hey.

The R5 1.6D rad is different as I know.
As I remember it fits perfectly. No modification needed for the fitting.
HULK
30-12-2009, 17:48
Has anyone ever fitted gt tunings fmic and still used the standard front bumper with some cutting etc???

Jim
Matt Cole
30-12-2009, 22:05
like the look of this one :agree:

mmm not sure on the pressure drop across those coolers. Again its a factory cooler designed for 8-10 psi. Got rid of by the 225 crew in favour of a (dare i say it) forge unit.