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BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 15:11
right people my car already has a forge dump valve on it not sure which one tho but i have a brand new baileys dv24 dump valve and fitting kit here,
questions are
which dump valve sounds the best ? i know baileys sound awesome on rst
which one is better suited to the gt turbo?
have you tried running without mate??? think it sounds much more evil..... i ditched my bailey and bunged it.
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 15:27
no not tried that im actually a fan of dump valves always have been since i went in my first turbo car many moons ago lol
so was i untill i tried running without it!!! lol! bung it up and take it for a blast.... you may like that sound better ;) i did :agree:
The new Bill J
25-11-2009, 15:34
Baileys is the drink, Bailey is the dump valve :cartman:
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 15:35
haha good point well made fella :cooter:
tonesGTT
25-11-2009, 17:31
What will you do with your brand new bailey dump valve if everyone tells you its pants :scratch::crap:
Wow, 2 dump valve threads :cool:
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 17:55
What will you do with your brand new bailey dump valve if everyone tells you its pants :scratch::crap:
end up selling it
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 17:56
Wow, 2 dump valve threads :cool:
great answer to my questions there fella:laugh:
Here's a novel idea ...fit the other one and see if you like it better :coffee:
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 18:01
thats what am thinking but i thought that maybe some of you lot on here might of tried them and could give me your views
TrixNFlix
25-11-2009, 18:07
thats what am thinking but i thought that maybe some of you lot on here might of tried them and could give me your views
Just get it on dude, and make your own mind up which is better.:rolleyes:
You won't get an opinion on which one is best .Either ,neither or none .....DVs are gay ...that'll be the extent of the advice offered .
Just fit it and see if you think it is better :agree:
The new Bill J
25-11-2009, 18:08
Asking which one sounds better is like asking if strawberry tastes better than raspberry. Everyone's has their own opinion.
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 18:10
gotta be strawberry haha :D ok ill get the bailey fitted and see which i prefer
Mmmmm..... Baileys with strawberry FTW :agree:
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 18:12
Mmmmm..... Baileys with strawberry FTW :agree:
:laugh:
my bailey didnt do the job, think it leaked boost slightly. no problems with the forge item which i have fitted now
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 18:25
my bailey didnt do the job, think it leaked boost slightly. no problems with the forge item which i have fitted now
now thats a sort of answer i was looking for lol, was there much sound diff between the 2 ?
markey b
25-11-2009, 18:32
get a hks ssqv.... it doesn't sound like a normal dump valve
forge group a is the loudest
bailey piston ones make a feeble tish
i just use the hks one or none depending on my mood
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 18:37
see it has a forge one on now but am not sure what kind, i asked the previous owner but he said it was already on when he bought it
my bailey didnt do the job, think it leaked boost slightly. no problems with the forge item which i have fitted now
i got a forge,its really shiny....:cartman:
Markey Mark (BD)
25-11-2009, 18:49
see it has a forge one on now but am not sure what kind, i asked the previous owner but he said it was already on when he bought it
If its got holes all way round the bottom half of the dump valve it'll be a diaphram type dump valve
dave j gtt
25-11-2009, 18:58
my bailey didnt do the job, think it leaked boost slightly. no problems with the forge item which i have fitted now
now thats a sort of answer i was looking for lol, was there much sound diff between the 2 ?
:eek: my forge one got binned as i fort it was:chuckup::banned: leaky peice of pap:coffee:
now thats a sort of answer i was looking for lol, was there much sound diff between the 2 ?
:eek: my forge one got binned as i fort it was:chuckup::banned: leaky peice of pap:coffee:
the bailey has a nice airy sound and you can control it for a long dump at light throttle, you dont get the light throttle dump with the forge but at high boost has a nice high pitched sort of lazer dump, ha,
i have to admit i did prefer the bailey sound at first but now ive changed my mind :rolleyes:
oh yeah both of them are piston type....
BluntyR5GTT
25-11-2009, 19:31
If its got holes all way round the bottom half of the dump valve it'll be a diaphram type dump valve
yes its defo a diaphram dump valve mate
youngscottie
25-11-2009, 20:57
remove the dv store neatly in the bin
blank the pipes of the take said car for a thrash
youll never look back
dv are :jerkoff:
5alldaway
25-11-2009, 23:40
you got to excuse the people on here :sad2: you need to run without a dumpvalve on here to hang with the big boys in the playground
ive run a bailey dv24 years ago but the forge group "a" is the nicest one ive used and lives on my car
redrocket29
26-11-2009, 08:31
stick 2 on and be rude one lads getting 6 why be the same and have one not much loader with 2 but looks good bit like a blonde they look nice till they open there mouth!!!:p
[quote=5alldaway;114906]you got to excuse the people on here :sad2: you need to run without a dumpvalve on here to hang with the big boys in the playground
:laugh::laugh::cooter:
Jimmy_GTT
26-11-2009, 12:10
But it is not healthy for the turbo, is it?
Ive had no turbo problems/wear running a lot of boost without a dumpvalve.
cars dont come from the factory with bailey dumpvalves etc so it must be tried and tested by now....
I have 2 dump valves from K-tec racing and I think that the answer that you are looking for is yeah they do sound nice.
I'm just curious as to why you want one that sounds the best??? Would you not want one that did its design job the best?? Whether it be a dump valve, no dump valve or a recirc.... This to me would make sense and that to me would get better answers and opinions.
Wanting one that sounds the best and loudest to me is wanting to be a chav and showing off to your mates.
"Lizen bruv, its gt a phat noize innit"
"Yh blud, you is me hero"
I think this is why you are getting a bit of stick maybe. Just my opinion though so I may be wrong.
Chris Hebden
26-11-2009, 14:08
I honestly believe having a dumpvalve (that failed) was the main cause of my engine blowing up. It was only a case of the reference pipe falling away slightly........ I dont have one now and MUCH prefer it?!
BluntyR5GTT
26-11-2009, 16:11
erm if you read my first post lad then it also asks the question what one is better suited to the r5 not just which sounds best
5alldaway
26-11-2009, 16:21
erm if you read my first post lad then it also asks the question what one is better suited to the r5 not just which sounds best
ive run all kinds of dumpvalves over the years since ownership in 2003, never had a problem with anyone of the ones ive used, no engine blow ups and no turbo failure
ive run all kinds of dumpvalves over the years since ownership in 2003, never had a problem with anyone of the ones ive used, no engine blow ups and no turbo failure
Aiii seen seen ....I fink dis was the most badical one you as fitted innit ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbNxugO-uf0
First post!
take it off and just have the flutter noise much better sound :)
erm if you read my first post lad then it also asks the question what one is better suited to the r5 not just which sounds best
Hahahaha you called him lad :laugh::laugh:
anybody know where that video clip of the white 5 with the orange wheels, bootin it down that street without a dump valve on is?? was it penfolds car...!? :scratch:
Penfold aka The Dealer
26-11-2009, 17:39
anybody know where that video clip of the white 5 with the orange wheels, bootin it down that street without a dump valve on is?? was it penfolds car...!? :scratch:
:agree: Was my old car, when Ricardo had it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVHlpwvBQw&feature=channel
& them orange wheels are going on Ghost as winter wheels... ;)
jesus in the seat of a 5
26-11-2009, 17:57
:agree: Was my old car, when Ricardo had it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVHlpwvBQw&feature=channel
& them orange wheels are going on Ghost as winter wheels... ;)
:laugh:...does rik know about it though.....:laugh:..;)
cars dont come from the factory with bailey dumpvalves etc so it must be tried and tested by now....
90% of turbo cars DO come with dump valves of the recirculating type these days because they do have a positive effect, and the reason most are recirculating is because most of them have air flow meters so you need to return the air thats already been measured
How many times has this been discussed? just out of interest? anybody know...
My old Impreza WRX came with a factory recirculating dv, I swapped it for a vent to atmosphere dv and it ran like a bag of nails, I put the standard one straight back on,
Cars with air flow meters must use a recirc dv or risk running very lean
Penfold aka The Dealer
26-11-2009, 18:09
:laugh:...does rik know about it though.....:laugh:..;)
Yeh he has sold them back to me, really set the car of nicely, Project ghost has had to step up a gear as no work now and ghost will be a daily runner.. :)
Yeh he has sold them back to me, really set the car of nicely, Project ghost has had to step up a gear as no work now and ghost will be a daily runner.. :)
you coming to the meet?....:yeah:
not far to drive!!!...:p
Cars with air flow meters must use a recirc dv or risk running very lean
Or not run one at all...
Markey Mark (BD)
26-11-2009, 18:47
90% of turbo cars DO come with dump valves of the recirculating type these days because they do have a positive effect, and the reason most are recirculating is because most of them have air flow meters so you need to return the air thats already been measured
Or could it be the fact that manufactors don't want there cars producing the 'chatter' nosie so run a re-circ one to loose the noise.
and emission regulations no doubt .
BluntyR5GTT
26-11-2009, 18:54
Hahahaha you called him lad :laugh::laugh:
yeah its a word we use alot round stoke like when you see a mate and say alright lad :) its not meant in any sort of insulting manner lol
and just to clear up i wasnt being funny with the guy even though it may of come across in that way and im 110% not a chav :laugh:
yeah its a word we use alot round stoke like when you see a mate and say alright lad :) its not meant in any sort of insulting manner lol
and just to clear up i wasnt being funny with the guy even though it may of come across in that way and im 110% not a chav :laugh:
Yeah top man. its just funny, last guy to call me lad was the biggest yorkshire man ive ever seen
BluntyR5GTT
26-11-2009, 18:59
haha yeah i suppose we just take it for granted that everyone uses that expression suppose it does sound weird/funny if your not used to it :agree:
Or could it be the fact that manufactors don't want there cars producing the 'chatter' nosie so run a re-circ one to loose the noise.
yeah thats probably somethin else to do with it, never thought about that :scratch: ha
:agree: Was my old car, when Ricardo had it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkVHlpwvBQw&feature=channel
& them orange wheels are going on Ghost as winter wheels... ;)
thats the sound im talkin about ;):agree:
SteveT2 posted this yesterday in General Topic as its quite impressive, however if your talking about sounds you get from a turbo car, its got to be the wastegate chatter on this little beast!
Get this on your 5 buy not running a DV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqV3ipH-1X0
newbstar*
27-11-2009, 10:47
SteveT2 posted this yesterday in General Topic as its quite impressive, however if your talking about sounds you get from a turbo car, its got to be the wastegate chatter on this little beast!
Get this on your 5 buy not running a DV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqV3ipH-1X0
550hp per ton hard to believe, just about keeping up with that starlet!
550hp per ton hard to believe, just about keeping up with that starlet!
says the indy has 262bhp 550 thats just per ton.... think the guy that posted the clip said the starlet was 300bhp. dunno how much a starlet ways?? cant be to heavy i wouldnt of thought!??
redrocket29
27-11-2009, 16:25
SteveT2 posted this yesterday in General Topic as its quite impressive, however if your talking about sounds you get from a turbo car, its got to be the wastegate chatter on this little beast!
Get this on your 5 buy not running a DV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqV3ipH-1X0
how smart does that sound!!!
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