View Full Version : clutch options, no valeo's about, anyone used techniclutch
gttjames
28-10-2009, 11:49
Ordered a valeo from GSF last monday and was told in stock, got to wednesday and got a call saying they havnt got any and would have some monday, then got a call today saying again none till next monday? Engine has been out for the last couple of weeks just waiting on this clutch...
Theyv got the sach's, but from what iv been told its not as uptot he job as valeo. Anyone know the whereabouts of a valeo clutch? Or if anyone has one can i have it and il replace as soon as gsf get them in/or just buy it from you?
Seen these techniclutch on ebay, thoughts...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-5-GT-TURBO-ORGANIC-HEAVY-DUTY-FAST-ROAD-CLUTCH_W0QQitemZ250519759009QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3a542428a1
Last time I spoke to valeo they were on back order there, this was about a month ago though so might be different now.
I have one for sale. Check the for sale section.
this any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-5-GT-Turbo-Uprated-Heavy-Duty-Clutch_W0QQitemZ300355312512QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ee925b80
gttjames
28-10-2009, 12:16
this any good?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Renault-5-GT-Turbo-Uprated-Heavy-Duty-Clutch_W0QQitemZ300355312512QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item45ee925b80
never had any experience with luk? but would prefer to put a tried and tested valeo in
Try Mike aka Phase 1 16v Turbo he must have a couple in stock
Can someone in the know please check if the GTA Turbo clutch is available and how much ?
Valeo 801299
Can someone in the know please check if the GTA Turbo clutch is available and how much ?
Valeo 801299
gsf part number 189RE077 LuK brand. for 25v6 and v6 turbo? - listed as the same as the valeo 801299 - could be wrong though.
none in stock either.
Just had a look on the system we still have it built on there, checked files which got from valeo and was on the last one received back in January this year. Selling cost to customer is around the 200 mark though :eek: ouch. Without ringing up valeo im not sure if they have stock though but might do some time, with both GT Turbo one and the GTA. Are they available from any other supplier seeming that GSF have started going over to sachs clutches
Yes for 25v6 Turbo and GTA Turbo :crap: I think Sachs do an uprated one but its not cheap ??
I'm just trying to find a supplier with stock or something else that might work . GTA V6 not up to the job .
A610 one is available from Renault but over £350 :dearme:
LUK is 624101400 can get it in stock within a couple of days thats for the R25 V6 same price as the valeo I recon we can do that.
Sparkie, Dale, what have you guys got in stock/can get hold of in the way of a standard spec clutch kit for a gtt? Not interested in any high torque jobbie, as I'm only running o.e power.
Got Sachs in stock, and can get LUK or national within a couple of days. Pass on the valeo, none in stock and dont order that much from valeo so would be a carriage charge on that as well.
What's the preferred choice these days?
Ironic as it is, but in all the years of owning gtt's, I've never had to order a standard spec clutch :D
That will be 25 v6 2.8 I think Dale , not Turbo .Does it list engine code ? I don't think it will be strong enough .
Cover Dia: 235
Plate dia 228
Splines 21
Model Code: B295, B29G
Engine Code: z7U.7.00, z7U.7.02
BHP: 182...205
Gearbox UH1
Pass on the preferred choice. Like yourself never put a standard one in, but we mainly supply in sachs clutches to the garages and have no real complaints about them really.
Sparkie, Dale, what have you guys got in stock/can get hold of in the way of a standard spec clutch kit for a gtt? Not interested in any high torque jobbie, as I'm only running o.e power.
just run the sachs one then. - softer pedal than valeo if i remember correctly.
Cover Dia: 235
Plate dia 228
Splines 21
Model Code: B295, B29G
Engine Code: z7U.7.00, z7U.7.02
BHP: 182...205
Gearbox UH1
Well bigger me sideways that's the fella .Thanks Dale .Can you let me know a price and delivery .
I reckon we should stock these in the shop :D:laugh:
Ill speak to Valeo first to double check with them for stock.
Else LUK unit which can get within couple of days but they definately got stock of it. Both of them I recon £200 for unit plus delivery. I will speak to the parts department to see if they can sort out delivery else I will sort it out. Ill also speak to them about paying over the phone as well, else I will sort it out and you transfer the money over to me, dont mind either way.
Well bigger me sideways that's the fella .Thanks Dale .Can you let me know a price and delivery .
I reckon we should stock these in the shop :D:laugh:
Well you did have the list from me for parts for you to stock, plus what somebody said about rear pad fitting kit which I can get for a nice price compared to the £25 from renault :eek: or around that price.
Price on that gtt Sachs kit please, Dale, Sparkie.
More than likely Sparkie will get this cheaper but best would be around £67 but would have to speak to the parts department about that, then plus delivery on top.
Mike Wilson@ PCS
28-10-2009, 17:17
you could get a sachs volvo turbo one for about £40 + vat
you could get a sachs volvo turbo one for about £40 + vat
Yes granted, companies can get it that cheap, but willing to sell on with no profit? Not sure on the true cost of that part to us as there is always rebates and other things not included in the price of parts. But I worked out what sort of price we would sell to our best trade customers then took some more off. GSF might have better buying powers or not make as much money on them, im not entirely sure with that. See what sparkie says with the price I guess.
How about National's Performance clutch?
http://www.national-auto.co.uk/
I have that clutch in my R11 turbo.
National Clutches work out at £45 inc vat roughly, none in stock though but could be ordered in some time though.
"anyone used techniclutch"
Don't they just use some of the clutches mentioned above and paint them red and pretend that are something special?
Sometimes adding the AP racing or centre plate or the other make from Mardi Gras Motorsport, I forget the name.
Yes granted, companies can get it that cheap, but willing to sell on with no profit? Not sure on the true cost of that part to us as there is always rebates and other things not included in the price of parts. But I worked out what sort of price we would sell to our best trade customers then took some more off. GSF might have better buying powers or not make as much money on them, im not entirely sure with that. See what sparkie says with the price I guess.
totally agree. Someone has been reading the supplier catalogues. no chance in hell a distributor will sell it to you for £40+vat, unless you're his busom buddy, sh4ggin his sister or you're actually a distributor yourself.
as for how much i can get it for, i'd rather leave in your hands bigfoot....
phase i 16 v turbo
28-10-2009, 23:51
The mark up on some items os crazy!! The companies also can take your trade account away if you sell parts too cheap.
The mark up on some items os crazy!! The companies also can take your trade account away if you sell parts too cheap.
:agree: we mainly get that with garage equipment, problem being our branches dont see it like that, they see the profit figure and always say we can do it cheaper than that. Running costs go all the way up the company, its not just the branch wages and running costs.
luckily we don't have that problem at GSF, cos not only do they have to reach turnover target, they also have to do it within margin!
unfortunately garage equipment tend to run at a rubbish margin and wreck a branches margin for the month, yet the turnover would be good. - there are systems in place to get round this though.
Sparks, I can't find the Sachs gtt clutch listed on GSF's website, hence asking what price you could get me one for.
If the part/price was showing, I wouldn't be asking, you geeza :D
Eurocarparts do a clutch...Transmech anyone ? :confused: :p
A few pence over 48 quid Martin.
Sachs is 78 quid.
ok i cant get you the number at the moment but go to
www.yell.com
search for bp clutches in coalville
i believe he can sort valeo clutch and hes good on price aswell, ive brought my own clutches from him in teh past with no problems..
I think they are refurbs but they always seem to be **** hot, your call though.
Eurocarparts do a clutch...Transmech anyone ? :confused: :p
A few pence over 48 quid Martin.
Sachs is 78 quid.
Cheers mate :agree:
Just had a look on their website, and it states heavy duty type. Doh!
Can anyone i.d this clutch...
I noticed that too.
But the power rating is pretty much oe so the difference can't be that noticeable...one way to find out though :D
Sparks, I can't find the Sachs gtt clutch listed on GSF's website, hence asking what price you could get me one for.
If the part/price was showing, I wouldn't be asking, you geeza :D
its not listed seperately. its under the number 189RE003 part number, you would have to specify sachs though. as its one of the suppliers listed. if you dont specify i bet you get an LuK one.
Andrew Cooke
29-10-2009, 14:04
Can anyone i.d this clutch...
no problem, £75 and I'll pull it out of any lineup you stand it in.
markey b
29-10-2009, 18:02
back to the original post...
techniclutch = ****
ROB C2GTT
29-10-2009, 18:27
I used techniclutch once! brand new paddle clutch slipped like mad at 15 psi. I never did find the reason 100% but i think it was only a std 5gtt cover plate painted red? Just put a valeo one in in the end. Just so you know as it may help, Unipart clutches are valeo units so you could try them?:)
markey b
29-10-2009, 18:32
I used techniclutch once! brand new paddle clutch slipped like mad at 15 psi. I never did find the reason 100% but i think it was only a std 5gtt cover plate painted red? Just put a valeo one in in the end. Just so you know as it may help, Unipart clutches are valeo units so you could try them?:)
exactly my point. my brother fitted one to his XE corsa, it lasted 300miles and the fingers collapsed on the (red) cover plate. it was about £200 to buy, we fitted a halfords on that was about £70 at that lasted perfectly with over 250bhp
mart, have a chat with mike re sachs clutch
Will do mate. I'll drop him a PM in a mo. Cheers :agree:
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