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mr white
16-10-2009, 18:27
just got in from work and my mrs told me that my neighbour who works at my daughters school saw my little girl walking around in the playground today on her own when she asked what the matter was she told my neighbour that two other kids had told her she couldnt play with them because she was different she was white.
out of a class of around 28 kids 4 are white what does this say for the future.:mad::sad2:
The new Bill J
16-10-2009, 18:36
.....what does this say for the future.:mad::sad2:
The future's bright, the future's orange
http://thesolarsea.com/images/Orange_alien.jpg
:scared:
Junglist
16-10-2009, 18:41
that sucks ,surely the 24 other kids arent all like that.. you may get the odd few as they are kids afterall and dont really know about race and stuff .
mr white
16-10-2009, 18:49
that sort of stuff comes from the parents. im moving out of london within the next few months ive decided now, im sick of living in se london, there was another shooting round the corner from me last nite also, saw them washing the blood of the pavement this afternoon.
mr white
16-10-2009, 18:56
that sucks ,surely the 24 other kids arent all like that.. you may get the odd few as they are kids afterall and dont really know about race and stuff .
but i forgot only white people can be racist acording to our politicians, stupid me. i wonder what would happen if the senario was reversed. i bet all hell would break lose
Junglist
16-10-2009, 18:57
wow,, yeah i think i would move too :agree:
just got in from work and my mrs told me that my neighbour who works at my daughters school saw my little girl walking around in the playground today on her own when she asked what the matter was she told my neighbour that two other kids had told her she couldnt play with them because she was different she was white.
out of a class of around 28 kids 4 are white what does this say for the future.:mad::sad2:
In a school full of white kids, its the fat kid, or its the ginger kid or the kid that hasnt got a Daddy thats gets the abuse or the exclusion.
The fact your child is white and the rest are not, really isnt the problem.
Posting OMG we're over ran by ethnic minorities is futile.
We are all the same, we all demand respect.
mr white
16-10-2009, 19:18
In a school full of white kids, its the fat kid, or its the ginger kid or the kid that hasnt got a Daddy thats gets the abuse or the exclusion.
The fact your child is white and the rest are not, really isnt the problem.
Posting OMG we're over ran by ethnic minorities is futile.
We are all the same, we all demand respect.
The fact your child is white and the rest are not, really isnt the problem.
did you not read my post...
yes it is the problem,:sad2: they said its because she is white.....
mr white
16-10-2009, 19:26
o and i like the way you tried to switch it. I have done nothing wrong.
"Posting OMG we're over ran by ethnic minorities is futile". NICE TRY.
Junglist
16-10-2009, 19:39
no one likes a ginger k :laugh:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080218184127AAQxShW
o and i like the way you tried to switch it. I have done nothing wrong.
"Posting OMG we're over ran by ethnic minorities is futile". NICE TRY.
What are you talking about?
The fact that only 4 children in the school are white is only an issue to people that have problems with race, colour or creed. :agree:
mr white
16-10-2009, 19:54
What are you talking about?
The fact that only 4 children in the school are white is only an issue to people that have problems with race, colour or creed. :agree:
i didnt even say that. i said "out of a class of around 28 kids 4 are white",
and yes they do seem to have a problem, as they are not playing with her because she is a minority.
i didnt even say that. i said "out of a class of around 28 kids 4 are white",
and yes they do seem to have a problem, as they are not playing with her because she is a minority.
Dude, thats sux. Kids are terrible anyway whether they black white whatever. Every time My little girls go off to school or nursery i hope they have a nice day. Its rubbish when you know your littlun aint happy.
wrightygtt
16-10-2009, 20:25
Damn dude, its almost a different world to around here, we get a lot of chavs don't get me wrong Reading isn't perfect, , you do get the odd stabbing and a bit of murder thrown in like any town but it sounds like you live in the wild west and your not even that far away really.
sorry but this isnt new news to me. it just seems a twist of fate to me as theres more non whites in the country now.
throughout school i was 1 of 2 coloured kids, me being the indian and the other being jamaican. me and him constantly got left out of things in the playground because we wasnt the same "we wasnt white".
not all the kids were like that with me and hopefully not all the kids will be like that with your little girl.
mr white
16-10-2009, 23:45
white kids have been in the minority in some parts of se london for a long time. when i left school in 1996 there was only 5 or so to a class the one part i hated about school was when they taught history not nice when the uk has conqured half the world.
LukeRobbo
17-10-2009, 00:02
Id talk to the parents of the kids who said it without getting the school involved.If it continues move schools or tell her to hit them.Many of you wont agree with me but thats what id do.
5alldaway
17-10-2009, 01:45
i think theres no point talking to these other childrens parents cause them sort of people will always be narrowminded and nomatter what gets drilled into their heads they will asways have their way and their way only
atecautos
17-10-2009, 22:27
ok
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
raj I was also a minority coming from a pakistani background, It was hard in the northwest, still get the odd racist about, but they are a real minority and not well educated, the british had brought our parents over for labour back in the days, still without doctors, takeaways (fridaynight) taxis(to get us home safe) not forgetting all the others, still we should all get along with each other, as I believe we all have hope.
:agree::agree:
everyone should js mix and have coffee coloured babies :D
I think everyone is cool as long as they abide by this country's laws.
In my opinion for every asylum seeker we let in we should ship out a chav.
Anyone with out a job on January 1st 2012 should be shipped out to africa to build hospitals and schools. Payment in Food and clothing untill they have qualified as plumbers, builders, soldiers or Nurses.
Rob@Backyardracing
18-10-2009, 08:48
i believe the more under-lying issue here is one of losing our national identity,
to be british used to mean something, and i think people (im not saying rightly or wrongly) feel that by the amount of non white british now here, that its only a matter a time, with dilutution and immagration, before there really are few white brits left.
are we too accepting? or is this just modern life in multicultural britain?
:)
Junglist
18-10-2009, 10:01
Anyone with out a job on January 1st 2012 should be shipped out to africa to build hospitals and schools. Payment in Food and clothing untill they have qualified as plumbers, builders, soldiers or Nurses.
or bing back national service ,,
and hanging ....... and Hale and Pace
mr white
18-10-2009, 11:00
everyone should js mix and have coffee coloured babies :D
why? we are as we were made why should we all become one.
mr white
18-10-2009, 11:02
i believe the more under-lying issue here is one of losing our national identity,
to be british used to mean something, and i think people (im not saying rightly or wrongly) feel that by the amount of non white british now here, that its only a matter a time, with dilutution and immagration, before there really are few white brits left.
are we too accepting? or is this just modern life in multicultural britain?
:)
too accepting is an understatment. its the goverment that cause these problems not the people.
and hanging ....... and Hale and Pace
Oh god no..........
Not Hale and Pace! :laugh:
mr white
18-10-2009, 11:19
I think everyone is cool as long as they abide by this country's laws.
In my opinion for every asylum seeker we let in we should ship out a chav.
Anyone with out a job on January 1st 2012 should be shipped out to africa to build hospitals and schools. Payment in Food and clothing untill they have qualified as plumbers, builders, soldiers or Nurses.
I think we should get rid of everybody thats spits and leave other peoples countrys alone.
Anyone with out a job on January 1st 2012 should be shipped out to africa to build hospitals and schools.
whats wrong with them building their own schools and hospitals. the past goverments are now reaping what they have sown ie dumbing down, no apprenticeships, removing discipline, invading countrys that the actual people of the uk were against. the uk has never been a democracy..(example during ww2 people were made to go and fight or be imprisioned, wheres the freedom.
i personaly would rather pay for a so called "chav" (i hate that word) than a asylum seeker we should have sorted out our own problems rather than take on other peoples the english shouldnt have to police the world, its the goverment that want to do that and not the people. every body i talk to belives we shouldnt have gone to war with afganistan. even my mate whos in the army.
mr white
18-10-2009, 11:30
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raj I was also a minority coming from a pakistani background, It was hard in the northwest, still get the odd racist about, but they are a real minority and not well educated, the british had brought our parents over for labour back in the days, still without doctors, takeaways (fridaynight) taxis(to get us home safe) not forgetting all the others, still we should all get along with each other, as I believe we all have hope.
the british had brought our parents over for labour back in the days, still without doctors, takeaways (fridaynight) taxis(to get us home safe) not forgetting all the others
"the british had brought our parents over for labour back in the days" well im not british im english and im also not the goverment by saying british you tar us all with the same brush throughout my life ive pretty much been the opisite in thought to what the goverment wanted and done. that goes for invading afganistan, slavery,and slavery of the english through taxes and rent.
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 11:43
I have no problem with immigration, but I don't agree with parts of England being little patches of "insert country name here". I don't agree with kids not being able to sing Christmas carols at schools due to the fear of offending other kids of different religions. I don't agree with college students being told to take down the St Georges Cross while their country is competing in the World Cup. Sh!t like this just irritates the fcuk out of me.
While ethnic minorities cultures are overly embraced in our country, we're throwing away our own heritage.
mr white
18-10-2009, 11:57
I have no problem with immigration, but I don't agree with parts of England being little patches of "insert country name here". I don't agree with kids not being able to sing Christmas carols at schools due to the fear of offending other kids of different religions. I don't agree with college students being told to take down the St Georges Cross while their country is competing in the World Cup. Sh!t like this just irritates the fcuk out of me.
While ethnic minorities cultures are overly embraced in our country, we're throwing away our own heritage.
you should see my daughters dinner menu she brought home the other day :sad2: the problem is knowone is allowed to express truthfully how they feel anymore, because people are programed to shout lables at you. how does a socitey move forwards without talking and goverment just laying down more legislation to keep peoples mouths shut (dont think just shut up and pay your taxes and spend the little amount you have left occupying yourselves)
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 12:02
And it's just sh!t like this that results in the BNP getting more and more votes.
I'm not really bothered about being labelled by people who know F'all about me, but you've got a point. A lot of people in this country are so spineless in saying what they really feel due to being worried about not being P.C.
mr white
18-10-2009, 12:14
And it's just sh!t like this that results in the BNP getting more and more votes.
I'm not really bothered about being labelled by people who know F'all about me, but you've got a point. A lot of people in this country are so spineless in saying what they really feel due to being worried about not being P.C.
do you watch the news?
does it seem as though the goverment are saying all the wrong things?
does it seem as though the goverment are always saying to oposite to what your thinking? example extending opening hours on pubs will reduce bing drinking. come on we all new that would turn out like this.
how many political patrys are there?
why do they not teach politicics at schools?
why do they only teach a few periods of history in school? because if you could see the pattern of history repeating it self over and over again we would all know what is happening and not be best pleased.
The ancient Greek philosopher Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous information in the first place and for what purpose.
the then goverment then had him killed.
mr white
18-10-2009, 12:34
I have no problem with immigration, but I don't agree with parts of England being little patches of "insert country name here". I don't agree with kids not being able to sing Christmas carols at schools due to the fear of offending other kids of different religions. I don't agree with kids not being able to sing Christmas carols at schools due to the fear of offending other kids of different religions. Sh!t like this just irritates the fcuk out of me.
While ethnic minorities cultures are overly embraced in our country, we're throwing away our own heritage.
little patches of england become like that because its natural to feel a common bond beleife we are all tribal and are political masters know this so they do the oposite. theres an old saying while the dogs are fighting their not attacking their handler.
Mr White. I'm reporting your screen name to the RTOC commitee. Far too racist and non-PC for my liking. We don't want your sort here. :banned:
Why are the smilies on this site predominantely yellow and so few are white? This is an outrage of ethnic preportions! :tuttut:
Junglist
18-10-2009, 14:15
When did we start quating Socrates on the RTOC :D , this ones green :scratch:
And what does a Brazilian Midfielder know about it all :confused:
mr white
18-10-2009, 18:54
Mr White. I'm reporting your screen name to the RTOC commitee. Far too racist and non-PC for my liking. We don't want your sort here. :banned:
Why are the smilies on this site predominantely yellow and so few are white? This is an outrage of ethnic preportions! :tuttut:
:confused::eek::rolleyes:
mr white
18-10-2009, 18:57
better get my self down to depole in the morning then:)
Big Steve - Raider
18-10-2009, 18:58
better get my self down to depole in the morning then:)
http://www.deedpoll.org.uk/
mr white
18-10-2009, 19:05
ok so i can do that, how do i unregister a birth cirtifcate without being dead?;)
old skool turbo power
18-10-2009, 19:21
i think theres no point talking to these other childrens parents cause them sort of people will always be narrowminded and nomatter what gets drilled into their heads they will asways have their way and their way only
:agree:my g/f lives in ireland and she has a 8yr old daughter she was playin out with her friends one day and one of her friends must of seen me.one time the little girl said to my g/f daughter why is ur mum goin out with him for he lives in england and he is not the right colour:eek:.(im mixed race )her daughter was shocked and told my g/f i was very shocked,but u know she is a kid so nothin i can do about it or say any thingto her parents.even when i was walking around in her town even aldults give me a good stare some times ive been in pubs and clubs and been the only coloured person(trust me its very white )i just have to get on with it.its nothin new tbh:rolleyes: and i have had worse.its life.if i get comments to me its not nice but still.
Chris, if your missus is from southern ireland, then yes being english would be a problem to certain sections.
as for being stared at in clubs? - so being 6'4", kinda muscley and looking like you could handle yourself has nothing do with it? ;)
if its any consolation, i get stared at all the time, cos my missus is Jamaican.
atecautos
18-10-2009, 21:14
ok
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 21:24
too accepting is an understatment. its the goverment that cause these problems not the people.
wrong ! its the people who control the goverments policys,.
mr white has made some good comments about society and life,
People REALLY DO NEED TO OPEN THERE EYES TO THE LIFE WHERE GETTING DICTATED TO LIVE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE READ INDERPENDANT REPORTED NEWS RATHER THAT THE MAINSTREAM CROPOLA ??
I TEND TO READ WORLD NEWS HERE http://www.infowars.com/ AND HERE http://uk.reuters.com/ (http://uk.reuters.com/) AMONGST MANY OTHER NEWS REPORTERS.
atecautos
18-10-2009, 21:28
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Exactly who controls the government policies????
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 21:44
[quote=atecautos;106987]New poster! (less than 10 posts)
Exactly who controls the government policies?
Depends who you ask ! or where you read your facts or who you choose to belive.
An elite group of people are making steps towards talking total control of the country and the world.
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 21:59
some quotes ive made,
Boys will be boys and men will be men, but really get everone together and share our knowledge, and stand up for our rights, In years passing we the worlds people have grown apart, not thru choice but thru careful manipulation of the human mind.
I **** you not, them news links i post, say 10000000million words theres tone of utube vidios about past and present affiars abeilt them cut edit to suit the people that own utube and what they can and cant broadcast , far more intresting than mainstream hed fuk media
our rights are being broken left right and centre as there are new rules and laws made and wrote everyday.
no one seens to care ... or think its going to affect them untill it dose, and by that time it will be to late to make any difference.
all religions are all the same as are the choices were given , dosnt matter which way you look at it or from which side you sit there aint any real choice. people are lame and dont care about everday stuff have been controled and manipulated for years and years.
The world is being controled by an eilte group of people.
I have had it,with many ways this country is being changed about and ran with no regard for what people want or do or say. Some fines are there as a pure joke,life is becoming harder to live. am about to take people on that have the power, and going ...to publishise each and every detail of my life/history Am not going to stop making noise or stop helping get this message out. Our world is controled by an elite group.
Certain people are getting old and they want to see there years of planning/actions come to reality i surpose is the cause of the speeded up process were expericing in todays living.
I aint no media junkie, i like the fine au natural things of life...and think past times and our future times are being ignoreed by the masses off people who should control our future ...
knowledge is power my friend ,everone controls there own power , Many get caught up in the wonderful things there to side track each and every one of us...
So people choose to learn/follow/ idolise and become almost an addict about things that have little to no meaning.
OR to learn about topics/facts and unadvertised areas of our history/furture our world mate...
Knowledge in areas that are unadvertised and unsensored and give a real un edited veiw about history/future of the world. Is power. ... f the people controlled the future...why are things in our world getting worse in many areas not just one....
The people dont have any control as many the masses are too busy with all the gettin wrecked and side salad thats of offer if you get my drift,And thats whats gona ruin it .
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 22:08
The Media and Politicians are disposable puppets - it is who controls these puppets that we should all worry about THEY ARE THE REAL ENEMY.
IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT LIFE AND THE WORLD WE LIVE IN AND THE WAY IT SPINS, MORE THAN WERE TAUGHT OR SURPOSE TO KNOW.
SORRY IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT YOU SEE, RESEARCH WHAT YOU WANT OR IGNORE , DONT DENY BY REFLECT ACTION.
.
AM born in the year of the dog ...
Dogs can be a bit overwhelming, due in part to their attentive natures. They can march in and take control of a situation, even when it doesn't involve them directly. This can lead people to think Dogs are nosy or gossipy, but in reality, he jus...t means well. Money and status don't matter to the Dog. He is more concerned with the welfare of his family and friends and will do whatever it takes to help them out of a ... tight squeeze or a rough spot. Once Dogs determine a subject of interest, they usually master that before taking off for a new adventure. They like to finish what they start. They are honest and trustworthy people, ethically strong and morally kept. They make loyal friends and companions."
:cool:
atecautos
18-10-2009, 22:13
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my friend you speak the truth when you say: An elite group of people are making steps towards talking total control of the country and the world
atecautos
18-10-2009, 22:16
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God does not judge on the persons colour but on actions done, we have hope.
mr white
18-10-2009, 22:17
you should buy a copy of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/The-Prince-Book-Niccolo-Machiavelli-PB-NEW-1853267759_W0QQitemZ370267726475QQcmdZViewItemQQpt ZUK_Books_NonFictionBooks_NonFictionBooks_SM?hash= item5635ad228b
it all seems a little odd to me as if a canned event..Encouraging others to follow ..Revolution is a good thing but more often than not it is a tool for the oligarchy to fast track their agenda ..A period of volitairity .Social decline fueled by Socialism one end and Market forces at the other leading to Anarchy ..For this to work it needs Influential types also with a vested interest in Freedom..Peace :agree:
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 22:20
yeah where heading for somthing alrigthy "Martial Law" its called.
If you wana see the truth... and really see wats going on.. download and watch
'THE ARRIVALS' by noreaga...
that will wake you up....
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 22:26
No offence mate, but you seem to preaching a lot of hot air...
all religions are all the same as are the choices were given , dosnt matter which way you look at it or from which side you sit there aint any real choice. people are lame and dont care about everday stuff have been controled and manipulated for years and years.Wrong. And this is the problem. Not all Religions are the same. Some totally conflict which causes modern day issues we experience on a daily basis.
IMO, you shouldn't move to a Western Society and attempt to live and raise your children as Eastern people, with all the traditions, etc, attached.
There's nothing wrong with embracing your true heritage, but if you chose to live in England, you should accept the way of life here from the start.
Prime Minister Kevin Hudd of Australia hit the nail on the head with this speach:
"IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '
'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'
'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'
'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.
This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
mr white
18-10-2009, 22:30
yeah where heading for somthing alrigthy "Martial Law" its called.
did you know that when martial law is inacted they have the right to enter your house and take all food to redistribute.
If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly. We see around us today the marks of our terrible dilemma--predictions of doomsday, antinuclear demonstrations, an arms race in which the West must, for its own protection, be an unwilling participant. At the same time we see totalitarian forces in the world who seek subversion and conflict around the globe to further their barbarous assault on the human spirit. What, then, is our course? Must civilization perish in a hail of fiery atoms? Must freedom wither in a quiet, deadening accommodation with totalitarian evil?
atecautos
18-10-2009, 22:37
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slim just been watching the arrivals, interesting
mr white
18-10-2009, 22:38
yeah where heading for somthing alrigthy "Martial Law" its called.
no the uk has got this http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2004/ukpga_20040036_en_1
i read in there somewhere that the army will use live rounds and that any body not complying orders or somthing will be shot and they will not be anwserable for it
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 22:45
adam the only hot air is you wasitin your time trying to teach me how to suck eggs mate.
look at how religion has evolved from where and when and tell me sumat i dont know you ill educated ... , if you give reasons sayin how and why i talk hot air . but instead you copy and paste **** thats no meaning to how my text was hot air,
sorry but open your fackin eyes ,and dont tell me what i say is just a bit of hot air unless you can educate me and others to how what i say is just abit of hot air OK !
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 22:50
no the uk has got this http://www.opsi.gov.uk/Acts/acts2004/ukpga_20040036_en_1
i read in there somewhere that the army will use live rounds and that any body not complying orders or somthing will be shot and they will not be anwserable for it
good link, yeah bad stuff aint it, i knew that but its easyier for people to understand saying what i said.
clee what was the point :sad2:
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 22:55
adam the only hot air is you wasitin your time trying to teach me how to suck eggs mate.
look at how religion has evolved from where and when and tell me sumat i dont know you ill educated ... , if you give reasons sayin how and why i talk hot air . but instead you copy and paste **** thats no meaning to how my text was hot air,
sorry but open your fackin eyes ,and dont tell me what i say is just a bit of hot air unless you can educate me and others to how what i say is just abit of hot air OK !
Ok, you clearly did take offence so I'll drop the curtsey.....
So far, all I've heard is conspiracy BS surrounding the government. No hard facts, or even a relevant opinion in regards to the original post.
I've given religion some thought as to how it has evolved and I still don't conclude that "they're all the same". Actually, I think that's a ridiculous statement.... for reasons already mentioned.
atecautos
18-10-2009, 23:01
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guys on the religion topic I have to agree that all religions are not the same however I believe they are linked to each other.
mr white
18-10-2009, 23:02
adam the only hot air is you wasitin your time trying to teach me how to suck eggs mate.
look at how religion has evolved from where and when and tell me sumat i dont know you ill educated ... , if you give reasons sayin how and why i talk hot air . but instead you copy and paste **** thats no meaning to how my text was hot air,
sorry but open your fackin eyes ,and dont tell me what i say is just a bit of hot air unless you can educate me and others to how what i say is just abit of hot air OK !
this is how you create a religion their all cults
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6E3cShcVU
this is mind blowing documentry
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 23:04
If all Religions were the same, there wouldn't have been as many wars in the world.
One Religion will teach you to hate another.... and so it goes on. Despite they're positives, IMO, Religions build barriers between people.
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 23:13
Ok, you clearly did take offence so I'll drop the curtsey.....
So far, all I've heard is conspiracy BS surrounding the government. No hard facts, or even a relevant opinion in regards to the original post.
I've given religion some thought as to how it has evolved and I still don't conclude that "they're all the same". Actually, I think that's a ridiculous statement.... for reasons already mentioned.
i geuss you belive a plane flew into the white house on sept 11 ?
i also geuss u havent spent time researching what i have wrote and based my posts on, my findings are from inderpendant news reporters and facts that have happened.
new world order is a talked about thing... pope, both bushes, clinton , blair who said within 5 hours of sept 11, the world will never be the same again, brown , obarma also.
i am agianst new world order and am standing up for a rights that a quickley becoming non exsistant.
if you really want to know about something educate your self, form your own veiw on your findings. dont take what i have said as fact, read and investergate for your self
i geuss you belive a plane flew into the white house on sept 11 ?
i also geuss u havent spent time researching what i have wrote and based my posts on, my findings are from inderpendant news reporters and facts that have happened.
new world order is a talked about thing... pope, both bushes, clinton , blair who said within 5 hours of sept 11, the world will never be the same again, brown , obarma also.
i am agianst new world order and am standing up for a rights that a quickley becoming non exsistant.
if you really want to know about something educate your self, form your own veiw on your findings. dont take what i have said as fact, read and investergate for your self
your last paragraph dave... i belive thats what he has done in this case and posted his view... which you dont like... so now your forcing it on people almost..
this is brilliant reading, really tells me alot about people..
very enlightening people... please continue:smokin:
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 23:18
If all Religions were the same, there wouldn't have been as many wars in the world.
One Religion will teach you to hate another.... and so it goes on. Despite they're positives, IMO, Religions build barriers between people.
tut tut you really are under a rock. there are wars and have been many as they are profitable and while at war or getting surposed terror attacts. we surrender our rights to all sorts, as new rules are made and fabricated to help gain the total control the worlds elite are tryin to achive we stand back in mainstream living seeing and beliving only want one wants us to see or belive.
i have a feeling you could be educated as mr white said how cum we dont get educated in many areas ??
atecautos
18-10-2009, 23:20
True religions have caused alot of wars, but thats the easy way out (blame religion), religions were made to unite people, however people choose to accept hate.
mr white
18-10-2009, 23:21
If all Religions were the same, there wouldn't have been as many wars in the world.
One Religion will teach you to hate another.... and so it goes on. Despite they're positives, IMO, Religions build barriers between people.
your so right mate and who created them for the flock to follow i bet the creatures didnt follow, they sat and watched the gullible people, while they lived off the back of them. if you catch us when we are young you can make us belive anything "culture" we are all blank discs, if everybody was to stop talking and we destroyed all books religion would vanish. it wasnt the of teaching christainty on the crusades that they was doing, they were pushing a universal langauge "those who can control language can control policy" if we can all understand then we can be taught anything.
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 23:22
i geuss you belive a plane flew into the white house on sept 11 ?
Huh? Erhm, no... but I do wonder if the price of fish went up or down that day.
i also geuss u havent spent time researching what i have wrote and based my posts on, my findings are from inderpendant news reporters and facts that have happened.
I can't say I have, but mainly because I couldn't really understand what point you were trying to make (in relation to the thread).
new world order is a talked about thing... pope, both bushes, clinton , blair who said within 5 hours of sept 11, the world will never be the same again, brown , obarma also.
i am agianst new world order and am standing up for a rights that a quickley becoming non exsistant.
if you really want to know about something educate your self, form your own veiw on your findings. dont take what i have said as fact, read and investergate for your self
It all sounds very interesting, but to be honest, people have been talking about New World Orders for hundreds of years.
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 23:27
True religions have caused alot of wars, but thats the easy way out (blame religion), religions were made to unite people, however people choose to accept hate.
knowledge = power
power = money
religion = under a rock only seeing whats put in front of you and a good thing i keep you peroccupied.
who watches tv ? i dont its all a joke, all controlled to only see what one wants you to see. TV make people do alsorts ,Tv corrupts peoples minds as dose religion.
mr white
18-10-2009, 23:27
Im being IGNORED....
C.u.nts YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Guys lets all meet at my yard, and settle the world and year old debate on the state of the world in my wrestling ring.
No rules and barb wire ring ropes.... loser buys beers after stiches
queensberrys rules:)
mr white
18-10-2009, 23:29
To the fool, he who speaks wisdom will sound foolish.
atecautos
18-10-2009, 23:30
Remember one thing we arrive in this world with nothing and we also leave with nothing, belive in the truth, who really controls our lives and how long we live.
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 23:32
Huh? Erhm, no... but I do wonder if the price of fish went up or down that day.
sorry pentergon not whitehouse,
It all sounds very interesting, but to be honest, people have been talking about New World Orders for hundreds of years.
correct ;) and you like it all do you ? this worlds getting worse not better whys that.
Big Supes
18-10-2009, 23:34
tut tut you really are under a rock. there are wars and have been many as they are profitable and while at war or getting surposed terror attacts. we surrender our rights to all sorts, as new rules are made and fabricated to help gain the total control the worlds elite are tryin to achive we stand back in mainstream living seeing and beliving only want one wants us to see or belive.
i have a feeling you could be educated as mr white said how cum we dont get educated in many areas ??
But, why does everything revert back to this conspiracy theory you are so fixated on?
Just look at the Catholics and Protestants, Sikhs and the Muslims, the Christians and Catholics.... they've all been fighting for centuries, because of Religion, and NOT because of some NWO conspiracy.
your so right mate and who created them for the flock to follow i bet the creatures didnt follow, they sat and watched the gullible people, while they lived off the back of them. if you catch us when we are young you can make us belive anything "culture" we are all blank discs, if everybody was to stop talking and we destroyed all books religion would vanish. it wasnt the of teaching christainty on the crusades that they was doing, they were pushing a universal langauge "those who can control language can control policy" if we can all understand then we can be taught anything.
True mate.... and to add to your point about preying on the young, Religion also prey's on the 'fear' in us. The 'fear' of no one watching over us, our families and loved ones. The 'fear' of death.
To have 'faith' in the unknown comforts people, aswell as controlling them in terms of living within a society (learning about right and wrong).
:agree:
dave j gtt
18-10-2009, 23:43
for any one wantin to read more real news http://www.infowars.com/
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 02:18
To the fool, he who speaks wisdom will sound foolish.
Oh please, the US took eight years of the most inept and criminal administration in the modern history of the world. I don't like that Obama's continuing Bush's policy of invading our privacy. Remember, Bush is the one who said that the Constitution was "just a god-damned piece of paper." I thought he took an oath to uphold that piece of paper. Oh, that's right 9/11 changed everything. Sheesh
open your eyes eveyone.
Rob@Backyardracing
19-10-2009, 09:09
this is how you create a religion their all cults
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ6E3cShcVU
this is mind blowing documentry
thats quite disturbing, not to mention tragic :(
never seen opression like it
Is this the right time to tell everyone that I'm a born again Christian? Most here wouldn't even understand what that meant, though you can bet most would have an opinion.
By the way I don't hear anyone blaming Bhuddism for much hatred or barrier building.
Some religions certainly appear to fabricate friction. It's usually what's done in the name of religion, thanks to interpretation and free will, rather than the religion itself that is the problem (i.e. we are the problem). Christianity certainly does not require you to hate or fight with anyone but there are many atrocities both past and present that are carried out under its good name.
Without religion and despite religion we've always found reasons to fight each other, beginning originally with the survival instinct, followed by greed and then backed up by ignorance. Nice.
What's the cup mod?
mr white
19-10-2009, 10:34
thats quite disturbing, not to mention tragic :(
never seen opression like it
yep changed my view of how we live, just shows how we as humans can be cultivated. the strongest cult wins.look at the 3 most dominant religions today we were raised in one of them (this is still a christain country yes) and will fight to protect this apperent freedom we gain from it, if another cult/religion was to try take away that freedom most would fight for it (example radical islam) "like the news is telling us at the moment" and not islams peacefull followers.its always a small amount of people that spoil it for the rest of us and its always ben like that more so since tv and newspapers because it feeds of it making money out of misery while directing most of us in thought. if radical christainty were to go to afganistan and try to change their way of life they would fight for it. obivisouly there our people that want change there though aswell as people that dont.
we are all serfs and most people like being so.
mr white
19-10-2009, 10:47
[quote=Trevhib;107120]Is this the right time to tell everyone that I'm a born again Christian? Most here wouldn't even understand what that meant, though you can bet most would have an opinion.
By the way I don't hear anyone blaming Bhuddism for much hatred or barrier building.
it depends on who created the cult and for what pupose i supose. if jesus was a jew doesnt that make him a defector and why did he defect? or was it to create another cult to be minipulated to do their will seem that its always the christains fight the wars mostly.
Some religions certainly appear to fabricate friction. It's usually what's done in the name of religion, thanks to interpretation and free will, rather than the religion itself that is the problem (i.e. we are the problem). Christianity certainly does not require you to hate or fight with anyone but there are many atrocities both past and present that are carried out under its good name.
an eye for an eye and a toothe for a tooth and love thi neighbour both in the same book so its left open for when what suits you i sopose.
its natural to fight kill hunt protect you terrotrie look after your own this is nature, there is no wrong and right its an abstract thought and proved by nothing.
clever thinkers made laws wich then created power.
You're more ignorant and agressive than I'd first given you credit for.
Who needs religion to cause grief when we have you telling us what's what. :rolleyes:
mr white
19-10-2009, 11:24
You're more ignorant and agressive than I'd first given you credit for. casting the first stone.
Who needs religion to cause grief when we have you telling us what's what. :rolleyes: causing grief im just promting you to debate/think.
well the bible tells us all the things that would make a nice world if we were to stick to them but then polticans tells what we want to hear aswell.
"Is this the right time to tell everyone that I'm a born again Christian"
on a serious note are you?
Most relegions state if you dont believe in theirs you will go to hell (or to wherever they send you) seeming that there is more than one relegion which states this and people only really believe in one relegion if that.
Ill see you all in hell :devil:
Using religion as the excuse for peoples behaviour towards other individuals/groups will never go away.
I personally think people use religion as a shelter to hide behind.
Combined with our worsening pc'd everyday lives, there is no getting away from it.
I'm a Sikh, I've never used that to my advantage for anything. Why should I ?
At the end of the day, education will play a big part in the understanding and evolution of us all but so will the environment we live in.
Saying that, most people will follow the crowd rather than taking a step back and thinking or speaking for themselves.
mr white
19-10-2009, 11:38
Using religion as the excuse for peoples behaviour towards other individuals/groups will never go away.
I personally think people use religion as a shelter to hide behind.
Combined with our worsening pc'd everyday lives, there is no getting away from it.
I'm a Sikh, I've never used that to my advantage for anything. Why should I ?
At the end of the day, education will play a big part in the understanding and evolution of us all but so will the environment we live in.
Saying that, most people will follow the crowd rather than taking a step back and thinking or speaking for themselves.
that is so right mate and our political masters dont want the masses to think for themselves just follow their agenda. a socitey is a group of induviduals that all have the same common beleife and values this is what bonds us all people have them same basic core values its just that we have been divied. like the old rule divide and conquer. we learn it as kids with our parents.
A wise man once said .
You get born ,keep ya head down and then you die ......... If you're lucky .
I dont care if ya black, white, jewish, muslim or Tom Cruise, if your hungry i will make you a sandwich. This is the way the world should work.
Its the same at the other end of the spectrum though, disrespect my family and I will hit you with a bat if you step foot on my driveway.
The beatles said "All you need is love", John Lennon got shot 5 times in the back.
Look after your own, take responsibilities for your own actions, keep yaself to yaself.
Dont come crying to me when your getting your head cut off on al jaseir TV ( Ps i cant spell foriegn words does that make me non pc? ah **** it, i'm a mac)
mr white
19-10-2009, 11:49
I dont care if ya black, white, jewish, muslim or Tom Cruise, if your hungry i will make you a sandwich. This is the way the world should work.
Its the same at the other end of the spectrum though, disrespect my family and I will hit you with a bat if you step foot on my driveway.
The beatles said "All you need is love", John Lennon got shot 5 times in the back.
Look after your own, take responsibilities for your own actions, keep yaself to yaself.
Dont come crying to me when your getting your head cut off on al jaseir TV ( Ps i cant spell foriegn words does that make me non pc? ah **** it, i'm a mac)
this is the begiging of the problem i think we have all be labeled black, white, jewish, muslim with out these we are all equal. i have no problems with anyone/person i want a better world to but you have to get people to think out of the boxes they have been put in first then we will all pull together and creat a better world but then you have to ask yourself why hasnt it happened yet?
mr white
19-10-2009, 11:51
well its better than reading your ^^^^^ crap mate,
he has a better understanding than alot of people , and that includs you trev.
you quite clearly have no idea, as rathar than doing/saying somthing of some use,
you try and belittle somone.
reflect action :crap:
he cast the first stone. so i shall rebuke him sharply.:)
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 11:53
A wise man once said .
You get born ,keep ya head down and then you die ......... If you're lucky .
an even wiser man said: "we are not remotely close to the end of the beginning."
I have had it,with many ways this country is being changed about and ran with no regard for what people want or do or say. Some fines are there as a pure joke,life is becoming harder to live. am about to take people on that have the power, and goin...g to publishise each and every detail of my life/history Am not going to stop making noise or stop helping get this message out. world is controled by an elite group that are milking us like cows.
the end :devil:
mr white
19-10-2009, 12:01
There are a few things in life i say you should never talk about on a forum and even in person some times, one is politics and the other religion.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion as long as its not expressed at other people who may not like what you say.
I have been reading this thread and at times thinking its going to spiral out of control and i think it now has.
I think a mod should now close this or delete this thread before people fall out.
one is politics and the other religion. these are both things that dictate our life.
you cant just go and put your head in the sand every time you come across it thats why we never get anywhere.
I think a mod should now close this or delete this thread before people fall out.
i havent fallen out with anyone its a debate and if im correct freedom of speech is still alive and kicking unless you vote labour.
also people have the choice to view or not to view/ post a comment/debate it gets peoples minds thinking its healthy. i think it should stay open unless we live in a dictatorship.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 12:04
There are a few things in life i say you should never talk about on a forum and even in person some times, one is politics and the other religion.
==== freedom of expressing opinion, speach and veiws spring to mind each to there own.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion as long as its not expressed at other people who may not like what you say.
==== freedom of expressing opinion, speach and veiws spring to mind
I have been reading this thread and at times thinking its going to spiral out of control and i think it now has.
======= why
I think a mod should now close this or delete this thread before people fall out.
no dont think so mate , theres nout wrong with out thats been said, at the end of the day whatever gets said whos going to get upset ???
i get on with everone what ever there veiw as thats all it is untill you do your own research and come to your own decision to what you want or choose to belive.
i will just copy and past the hole topic again if you get your wish as i belive, if people want to read about a subject that has never been taught or published its here.
the topic title :::: whats happening to this country :cooter:
its world news and events that affects our lives daily ;)
mr white
19-10-2009, 12:13
you sound brain washed
you must admit it is getting silly in the uk now fine/charges cants say cirtain words for fear of offence and this sort of stuff only ever moves forwards and never back. day by day the the goverment are telling us things that are of the opposite of what we no is common sense do they no better than us?
and this has been going on for years its how economics works it always happens at the end of the cycle as far as i can make out. empires rise and fall and have always been through economics. the goverment repress the truth untill which time it suits them to reveal.
our nation is brain washed not me squire .... what makes you say that ? you know were that top quotes from ?
Just seems from what you type that only your opinion counts...
Im not gonna argue, as this topic has gone miles off course from the start.. as it was about a chaps kids in school, and how he is not happy... now suddenly its as if we are part of the 7 corners of the globe discussing WW3 break out.
All it took was a slight opening and we end up with a thread full of each persons opinions, but people cant accept each others opinions...
your all squabiling like idiots.... you lot are as bad as the ones that start war... as its over things like this....
if you look from the out side, out of you brains and through another set of eyes.... you are now doing what they want.
mr white
19-10-2009, 12:20
All it took was a slight opening and we end up with a thread full of each persons opinions, but people cant accept each others opinions...
that what opions are!;)
its good to talk.
I was once proud to be english.....and in a way theres still something in our pride that i think may be able to be saved, as long as this ****ing government PISS OFF. im joining her majestys services soon (next year) hopefully as a pilot
But dont take this the wrong way....my grandad (RIP) served in WW2, WW2 was where most of the problems of immigration come from the great war, the deaths of millions , the formation of the NHS (sorry but this is a magnet for immigrants) alongside the benefits system, these two systems should have been scrapped in the 70's or so before everyone caught on to the fact you can come here and claim for foook all in return.
Population was required so we let in as many people as possible, ernock powel was correct in saying the indeginous people (white british) will eventually be out bred and become a minority, hes surely turning in his grave now.... im not racist, i have many black people in my family but i wonder whether the world would have been better (different yes) if the germans had won WW2.
P.S IM NOT RACIST SO DONT EVEN PLAY THAT POXY RACIST CARD. :bothered:
mr white
19-10-2009, 12:48
:confused:
I was once proud to be english.....and in a way theres still something in our pride that i think may be able to be saved, as long as this ****ing government PISS OFF. im joining her majestys services soon (next year) hopefully as a pilot
But dont take this the wrong way....my grandad (RIP) served in WW2, WW2 was where most of the problems of immigration come from the great war, the deaths of millions , the formation of the NHS (sorry but this is a magnet for immigrants) alongside the benefits system, these two systems should have been scrapped in the 70's or so before everyone caught on to the fact you can come here and claim for foook all in return.
Population was required so we let in as many people as possible, ernock powel was correct in saying the indeginous people (white british) will eventually be out bred and become a minority, hes surely turning in his grave now.... im not racist, i have many black people in my family but i wonder whether the world would have been better (different yes) if the germans had won WW2.
P.S IM NOT RACIST SO DONT EVEN PLAY THAT POXY RACIST CARD. :bothered:
the problem is econimics and self betterment the more time working trying to better ourselves we are having less children aiming for the bigger house shiny car. i call it economic genocide because we are the host nation it will greatley affect us more couple that with the benifit system and people moving here who have come from nothing alot of the time who also have larger familes due to there children normaly looking after themselves later on in life and a greatley faulted system which everyone can see aprt from the goverment (strange that) maggie thather sold us all cheap houses wich is like a ball and chain because there is no council housing forcing more people to get a ball and chain to better themselves moving out of run down crime ridden areas and not afording to have kids we shhot ourselves in the foot.
ive spoken to a few african friends of mine and they was the ones who pointed out the larger familes thing to me so even they see whats happening itaffects us all.
mr white
19-10-2009, 12:56
This whole thread is serious is it not?
I don't need you to prompt me to widen my perspective, I'm analytical and neurotic enough already. The point behind my irritation is that as soon as I said I was Christian (and I did no more than that), you took the first thing about Chistianity that you thought might be difficult to answer, or contradictory and threw it at me. Typical.
I'm not well versed enough to answer all the questions you and the internet might come up with so because of that I will do this and no more in this conversation -- The laws/statement you mentioned are from Old Testament. They were done away with 2010 years ago, catch up. If you really want to learn, start with the Gospel. The Open Door series helps provoke thought and reflection on its meaning:
http://www.alibris.co.uk/search/books/qwork/4861677/used/Open%20door%20on%20Mark%20:%20his%20gospel%20explo red
That's my evangelising and persecution done for the day.
I don't need you to prompt me to widen my perspective, I'm analytical and neurotic enough already. The point behind my irritation is that as soon as I said I was Christian (and I did no more than that), you took the first thing about Chistianity that you thought might be difficult to answer, or contradictory and threw it at me. Typical.
mate in all onestey i didnt do it on purpose you must see it like that because you are there and im looking from the outside. but i have shown you a floor in it thats why you got angry. im not angry with you i just question everthing. some people need to belive untill the have found their own will the bible tells you to put your will in it but but by doing that you are giving it to somone /somthing else that doesnt make sense to me our will power is the strongest thing we posess we need to harness it for our own use.:)
mr white
19-10-2009, 13:03
Fecking cheeky monkey ;) its difficult to miss if im sat on rtoc live... just think its almost verging on becoming a total pointless thread,
Id post alot on this but dont want to be banned, or looked at in a way that is of discust..
i supose im a nutral here i realy wish that if people that had a strong opion would post thats how things get worked out if only it could be done on a bigger scale.
Views are somtimes best kept to ones selfs other time not so, some views can be found to be hiding an underlaying truth to a person... in some cases here i just cant tell.
Love you all rtocers;););)
i supose its a blue pill red pill senario
but i belive it is slavery, not to speak one's thoughts life has lot of things we wont like but thats the bitter sweet.
All we ask is that you dont tar us all with the same brush. :smokin:
Us asain people just want a quiet productive life like everyone else. I work as hard as everyone else, pay all my taxes, look after ill people from all backgrounds, listen to DnB/Jungle and try to fix my car. :)
I dont try and bomb anyone, kill anybody or cause political and religious problems and i am certainly disgusted with the people who do. I am a Roman Catholic, Mums side of the family are too and Dads side are Hindu, none of us want/cause any trouble to anybody.
Every race has bad people, just get rid of the bad ones and keep the good ones, simples :agree:
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 13:07
jrp your a bettin man yeah !
go ask what odds you'll get on the consertives and camron being in power next.
there is a controlled agender than we are made to live by with out having a clue untill the super high way made all info avliable, scary stuff ;)
if you want a history lesson, i will get off here finish my arctial which you will feature you as with many others who paths i have crossed.
if a goverment are proven to have lied or mis guilded there people, what should be done about it do you think ? do some research.
is everyone just going to sit back....
Recession Spells End for Many Family Businesses After months of slow sales, family businesses are being forced to close, ending legacies and leaving behind a wake of sad customers and loyal employees.
and leaving big own contolable companys have the power, if tesco aint got not food no will have , thats control and not freedomto choose, it made so we have choices yes but only choices that are controled and therefore were gettin no choice REALLY
just like we have less and less righs each day, our countrys civillans ideas are ignored and repressed.
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 13:09
:scratch::scratch::scratch: Controlled Agenda....?
Who exactly is running all this? Is it that pesky Blofeld again in the mountain he's hollowed out & turned into his lair? :rolleyes:
Not forgetting the false lake that slides back to reveal the spaceship....
Rob@Backyardracing
19-10-2009, 13:13
i think its a very intersesting thread, and more importantly, it will gain some reading from a differant audiance, a lot of who would not normally read much on politics or religion, surely to get some thought provoking questions is a good thing, you dont need to agree with everyone, or accept there opinion, but to close your eyes to it all is naive and weak.
mr white
19-10-2009, 13:18
All we ask is that you dont tar us all with the same brush. :smokin:
Us asain people just want a quiet productive life like everyone else. I work as hard as everyone else, pay all my taxes, look after ill people from all backgrounds, listen to DnB/Jungle and try to fix my car. :)
I dont try and bomb anyone, kill anybody or cause political and religious problems and i am certainly disgusted with the people who do. I am a Roman Catholic, Mums side of the family are too and Dads side are Hindu, none of us want/cause any trouble to anybody.
Every race has bad people, just get rid of the bad ones and keep the good ones, simples :agree:
mate this is what i mean the small amount of bad affects the larger good our goverment makes it look like white people are racist and then it becomes paranoia of a sort. ONE MAN CAN NEVER NO ANOTHER MANS MINDS. so without talking and being devided the masses will harbour these thoughts like racisim which is tared across us all. example who are the pedophiles in socitey that you want to protect are children from you can never know these things so its creates suspicion of everyone yopu dont know.
:):):):)
i think its an inbuilt thing to tar everyone its like coming across a lion in the wild you dont want to go near it in the future if its tried to eat you in the past. i think we all work like that dont we till a certain extent.
mr white
19-10-2009, 13:20
i think its a very intersesting thread, and more importantly, it will gain some reading from a differant audiance, a lot of who would not normally read much on politics or religion, surely to get some thought provoking questions is a good thing, you dont need to agree with everyone, or accept there opinion, but to close your eyes to it all is naive and weak.
well said mate:agree:
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 13:29
:scratch::scratch::scratch: Controlled Agenda....?
Who exactly is running all this? Is it that pesky Blofeld again in the mountain he's hollowed out & turned into his lair? :rolleyes:
Not forgetting the false lake that slides back to reveal the spaceship....
there is some really good arctails here :
http://unansweredquestions.weebly.com/911-was-an-inside-job.html
Charlie sheen msg to obarma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU
The Real Face of the European Union (2004) part 1/4 (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com%252Fwat ch%253Fv%253DXBirR7QyZ9E&h=aba61dade472540477ff835bfb02c4ad&ref=mf) watch em all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyKR2-A0KPU
afgan tailiban say
http://www.prisonplanet.com/afghan-taliban-say-they-pose-no-threat-to-the-west.html
Bilderbergs and rothschilds have enought wealth too own us all thats whats ****ed,
how can any one a masses as much with no coruption.
after this post the white van, might drive past my gaff again, theres a chopper been flying round my house for the last hour now , they dont like people broadcasting this sort of thing , it s best for people to do there own research and come to there own findings rather than mine or mr whites.
we just tried to give people a starting platform
and clee yes you will feature !
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 13:41
clee - "Its my life , a-star-was-born" will be the book.
rob - thanks for expressing your much apperciated veiw on this topic, i hope some with no idea, will go and find for there selfs, what i went out and found for my self you have to think out side the box. there always a curve ball.
remember everyone people couldnt accept the world was round " the person who says it is, was looked at and made out to be dumb/ insane / freak / wierd / stupid, untill the world was proved to be round ;)
use that as a fact that got proved and has now become commem knowledge.
Now I know you're taking the piss .
This is the way I see it. DO NOT DARE shoot me down for my opinion, because it's exactly that...MY opinion and that will never change as I have my own mind. Nor do I need to justify my thoughts, the same as I wouldn't ask anyone else to.
I'm not religious, I never have been and never will be - I have no interest in it.
BUT I do have friends who are religious or have heavily religious backgrounds, it doesn't bother me in the slightest, why would it?
Like Sukhi said, I think people use religion as an excuse for everything. Can it just not be that Bin Laden was brought up in one religion but is just a bit of a w*nker? His teachings certainly do not command to kill other nations do they? Some people are just toss-pots, who gives a crap what religion they are? Evil occurs in EVERY nation and in EVERY religion, so stop pinning it on something like that.
I agree that differences in opinions have caused wars, whether religious opinions or not. My parents brought me up well to be accepting of every colour/religion/disability, it's just a shame that some people were not taught that and it causes upset to loved ones - This is what I hate the most.
There are a lot of conflicting opinions here, some I agree with and some I don't. I'm not going to judge people on how they think though. Difference in opinions and interests etc is what makes us all different - The world would be so boring if we all agreed on everything :agree:
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 14:02
Now I know you're taking the piss .
:scratch: you asked ! i only speak what i belive to be true. am not takeing the piss clee
i might never publish my findings and facts and vidieos, untill after my life,
due to the fear of lossing my freedom.
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 14:07
There's been conspiracy theories about since day one!
Did Adam or Eve actually eat the apple or did the snake trip one over & then they fell over landing face down in one?!
All I know is i live my life right & look after my family & friends.
What goes on out in the big wide world I cannot hope to change so I kinda let it do it's own thing?! :D
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 14:09
I might never publish my findings and facts and vidieos, untill after my life,
due to the fear of lossing my freedom.
Why not publish your findings & we'll keep an eye out for you & if you go missing we'll search for you??
It's all a bit far fetched don't you think?
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 14:17
There's been conspiracy theories about since day one!
Did Adam or Eve actually eat the apple or did the snake trip one over & then they fell over landing face down in one?!
All I know is i live my life right & look after my family & friends.
What goes on out in the big wide world I cannot hope to change so I kinda let it do it's own thing?! :D
sorry mate you'll wake up when theres no food for out kids let alone us.
man made diesses "bio" warfare against us civilians, the facts are it is known that the world has far exceeded its total recommended population of 5 billion.
so there for were close to mass genoside all over again. and were better to start than an island with a large population and more money and thing to do than sence .
the real causes are eing overlooked by you . big steve my arse read what robs @ backyard (robs@ backyard) said my friend, your weak and really stupid if you think you can put your head down and get on with it.
i am helping you perpare for whats to come.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 14:37
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Is that written on the manufacturers plate??
and people think they dont need to be educated, find out for your self if you care. but there are many more facts i could quote and u could laugh again some more.
thats is the best form of defence "direct reflex action" laugh at a fact told by some one who didnt got on in skool has only 1 gcse, yet i can say for sure i know more about the world we live in that a lot more people than what i first fort :cooter:
dawn i called somone stupid if they still fort what they belived to be true after i have told facts and quote links to show them otherwise. after that if they still come up with silly, pontless comment ,
i will call whoever stupid for failing to embrace good info givin with everdience to back it all up.
Dave, this has got to be a wind up surely :laugh: One of THE wind ups in RTOC history?
To say you're alienating yourself (dare I say alien in this thread), is an understatement.
and people think they dont need to be educated, find out for your self if you care. but there are many more facts i could quote and u could laugh again some more.
thats is the best form of defence "direct reflex action" laugh at a fact told by some one who didnt got on in skool has only 1 gcse, yet i can say for sure i know more about the world we live in a lot more that what i first fort :cooter:
Come and tell me about the world when i lived in tibet for as year to seek somthing better.
I found it, yet wanted to be back home...
I have heard all this before about 20 years ago .My ex missus was Pagan wican thingy and I used to get this all the feckin time from her and her associates .
Everything from Alistair Crowley to Davis Icke with a little astral flying in-between . Lizards , Jewish control theory lahh de fecking dah .
Click dr j nanjo.... he is the man, ive been to his chaple
http://www.kltelevision.com/
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 14:44
and people think they dont need to be educated, find out for your self if you care. but there are many more facts i could quote and u could laugh again some more.
thats is the best form of defence "direct reflex action" laugh at a fact told by some one who didnt got on in skool has only 1 gcse, yet i can say for sure i know more about the world we live in a lot more that what i first fort :cooter:
We're only like every other creature on this planet .... here to further their own species by having offspring?!
They don't say "breed like rabbitts" becasue they're almost extinct, there's friggin millions of them! However they've never stopped to think that their may be too many?
Same goes for Humans..
My parents have had two kids & no doubt you've probably got a sibling??
Kids have kids & thus the cycle of life continues
Sure things get overpopulated & room is at a premium but I don't see people saying "Oh no i'm not going to have any kids, there's far too many in this world!"
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 14:47
"he who speaks wisdom will sound foolish. Who dares not speak his free thoughts is a slave" .... what a ****ing cracker love it
most are slaves and weak, i am not i will speak with out fear of being laught at, some cant, i do what it takes to do a task set or a job that needs doing :smokin:
There are two main problems with the Human species:
Mostly they are not clever enough,
They are too short lived.
If humans lived to, say 500 years, then they WOULD give a carp about the future as it very much WOULD affect them. They would HAVE to fact and tackle overpopulation, disease, waste of the planets resources, damage to it's ecosystems or suffer the consequences IN THEIR LIFETIME.
They could spend maybe 50 or 100 years in education, instead of, for most people, about none. The spelling and grammar in this thread illustrate the lack of trained or natural ability at this basic skill and the lack of care over such accuracy and correctness, I expect, goes a lot further then just spelling and punctuation.
Many people do need to be led, told what to do, have the thinking done for them as they do lack the ability or desire to do it them selves. So there is always a reserve to draw on if you are not in that group and want to go and do some big time power and glory seeking and theiving/mass murder. There's no shortage of humans to will wage war for a payment and no shortage of people who will gather and direct them to do so.
If ALL humans spent 100 years in quality Education, or/and were treated successfully for their mental ailments, then that would all vanish.
Humans have evolved as tribes. They pretty much all have instinctive tribal mentality. It's with doubt or argument worked well for them up to recent millennia.
The problem is that now those instincts have to be put aside and replaced by and intellectual approach that is all seeing and understanding.
Our worlds leaders aren't entirely on this plane. They still look out for their nation when nationalism should be left in the past. The species now lives or dies as one, not as little groups and it's overpopulation that will be the Humans end.
The end of oil and the raise of Global temperature will put the squeeze on and billions will have to die.
The obvious way to make the vanishing resources go further is to stop breeding, mostly in the growing economies and that's where the main growth is.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:01
Ian s i have one word, "hemp", its banned ! why ?
Ian s i have one word, "hemp", its banned ! why ?
It's not banned.
There are many hemp products available.
Even I have some; a tub a hemp seed protein in my kitchen. I had some hemp oil and may have a hemp bag.
There's no THC in hemp.
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 15:10
There's no THC in hemp.
There's a LOT of Hemp in (Stu)THC!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:18
ok then ! why is useable hemp been outlawed
1 - it can not be paintened or copyrighted
2 - anyone could profit from it
3 - were would that leave all oil companys
4 - were would it leave the the big i am pharmacutical companys, that make bio weapons .
5 - on and on i could go
sorry i cant wirte any more cant be arsed am off logging of rtoc , no one give to ****s , hope all that laugh and dont take help when its offered starve and die of swine flu,
ok then ! why is useable hemp been outlawed
1 - it can not be paintened or copyrighted
2 - anyone could profit from it
3 - were would that leave all oil companys
4 - were would it leave the the big i am pharmacutical companys, that make bio weapons .
5 - on and on i could go
sorry i cant wirte any more cant be arsed am off logging of rtoc , no one give to ****s , hope all that laugh and dont take help when its offered starve and die of swine flu,
Your really nice dave, hope it gets you first...
its pathetic now we are onto hemp... go argue with a brick wall or lorry
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:28
well know one wants to know what i know and have been told and learnt ;)
the illumanarties infulltrated free masonry. and thats why where, where we are today.
say no to swine flu vaccine if i was you ;)
the end am done.
He's havin a go at the Freemasons now ..Next it'll be the bloody Meek :mad:
Blimey, this could go on forever now Ian and Bill are here :D
Dave, don't go anywhere. Without you getting angry and calling everyone here turds or crap or some such, and painting conspiracy pictures for us all to muse, this thread will sadly die on its a*se.
Alice Cooper FTW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ_X3nbIv8Q
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:31
Your really nice dave, hope it gets you first...
its pathetic now we are onto hemp... go argue with a brick wall or lorry
as ian was sayin about the worlds fuel . hemp would spell the demise of oil and lot and lots of things if ony our farmers cold grow it , we;d be a lot better off in many ways .
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:33
He's havin a go at the Freemasons now ..Next it'll be the bloody Meek :mad:
you ant a clue have you :crap: y would i have a go at them they didnt relise what they were letting themselfs in for.
Big Steve - Raider
19-10-2009, 15:34
My mate was telling me that Algae is the next big thing becasue it grows quickly and once squeezed gives an oil like substance which could be refined for petrol.
Then the crumb as you're left with can be fed to the animals?
you ant a clue have you :crap: y would i have a go at them they didnt relise what they were letting themselfs in for.
I've got far more of a clue than you know. I just don't happen to agree with a single word you say .It's the sort of drivel that I've heard all before from far more educated sources .I cannot argue ,because it is you that has the closed mind .
Simply to rant at anyone that says' hang on a minute' or just post links to any old NWO bollocks does not make your beliefs any more valid .
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 15:54
I've got far more of a clue than you know. I just don't happen to agree with a single word you say .It's the sort of drivel that I've heard all before from far more educated sources .I cannot argue ,because it is you that has the closed mind .
Simply to rant at anyone that says' hang on a minute' or just post links to any old NWO bollocks does not make your beliefs any more valid .
quite clearly you have not a clue, show me am wrong .
Please take a read of the member rules, David
http://www.rtoc.org/club/?show=committee
quite clearly you have not a clue, show me am wrong you c ock
I just explained why I can't do that .
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 16:14
NO JRP , no one knows what i am or who i know or who i really am. i lead my own life and will never find myself to follow someone thru greed. am happy with nothing cheers ;)
rules for what dawn ?
atecautos
19-10-2009, 17:45
on a serious note mr white how is ur daughter
mr white
19-10-2009, 18:47
There are two main problems with the Human species:
Mostly they are not clever enough,
They are too short lived.
If humans lived to, say 500 years, then they WOULD give a carp about the future as it very much WOULD affect them. They would HAVE to fact and tackle overpopulation, disease, waste of the planets resources, damage to it's ecosystems or suffer the consequences IN THEIR LIFETIME.
They could spend maybe 50 or 100 years in education, instead of, for most people, about none. The spelling and grammar in this thread illustrate the lack of trained or natural ability at this basic skill and the lack of care over such accuracy and correctness, I expect, goes a lot further then just spelling and punctuation.
Many people do need to be led, told what to do, have the thinking done for them as they do lack the ability or desire to do it them selves. So there is always a reserve to draw on if you are not in that group and want to go and do some big time power and glory seeking and theiving/mass murder. There's no shortage of humans to will wage war for a payment and no shortage of people who will gather and direct them to do so.
If ALL humans spent 100 years in quality Education, or/and were treated successfully for their mental ailments, then that would all vanish.
Humans have evolved as tribes. They pretty much all have instinctive tribal mentality. It's with doubt or argument worked well for them up to recent millennia.
The problem is that now those instincts have to be put aside and replaced by and intellectual approach that is all seeing and understanding.
Our worlds leaders aren't entirely on this plane. They still look out for their nation when nationalism should be left in the past. The species now lives or dies as one, not as little groups and it's overpopulation that will be the Humans end.
The end of oil and the raise of Global temperature will put the squeeze on and billions will have to die.
The obvious way to make the vanishing resources go further is to stop breeding, mostly in the growing economies and that's where the main growth is.
your right mate the oil trend will end and their will be a period of how you put it "instinctive tribal mentality" if there is nothing in place beforehand reading somwhere the other day its seems we may have already gone past peak oil. and our goverment dont seem to be doing much about it or they are holding it back ;) considering nikolas telsa had already developed the electric car a very long time ago and his telsa coil which could transmit electricty.
mr white
19-10-2009, 18:57
on a serious note mr white how is ur daughter
well my mrs has been to the school this afternoon and spoke with the teachers their going to have a word with the kids parents. thanks for asking;)
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 19:17
All my posts earlier are around one area which i would like to change and that is one of great importance and significance. Which is were this topic is now. i want to farm hemp to make fuel out of it. i want to make fibre form it. i want to farm it so everyone can reap the benifts. am no farmer , i just want the choice to use the worlds properties to good use.
If i come out and said that firstly , what would your view have been.
'What's money gonna get you ......but I missed out on a grand today '
Mixed messages there
All my posts earlier are around one area which i would like to change and that is one of great importance and significance. Which is were this topic is now. i want to farm hemp to make fuel out of it. i want to make fibre form it. i want to farm it so everyone can reap the benifts. am no farmer , i just want the choice to use the worlds properties to good use.
If i come out and said that firstly , what would your view have been.
Well go and farm hemp then.........tens of thousands of people all over the world already do, go join them, it'll be fun.
mr white
19-10-2009, 19:21
dave watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sABpGFzxebQ
rules for what dawn ?
Title Points Expires
Inappropriate Language 2 1 Month
Insulting other members 5 3 Month
Disrespect towards the site staff 20 6 Month
Aggression to members 30 6 Month
mr white
19-10-2009, 20:06
anybody ever read about the crystal skulls
Yes..and the precision of Mayan masonry and Chariots of the Gods and Jonathan Livingston Seagull
mr white
19-10-2009, 20:15
cool most people think its just part of the indiana jones movie and dont relize they are real this is quite good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR32IsutTws
said it would have taken forever with basic tools to make this is quite good bit hyped up.
mr white
19-10-2009, 20:19
Yes..and the precision of Mayan masonry and Chariots of the Gods and Jonathan Livingston Seagull
Jonathan Livingston Seagull never herd of that will look that up, ever herd of zecharia sitchin.
mr white
19-10-2009, 20:26
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x42lqb_zecharia-sitchin-sumarian-origins-o_tech
New one to me .I went through all this stuff 25 years ago .Not convinced then even less so now .
mr white
19-10-2009, 20:48
how did we all get here is the time old question i supose does get you thinking though. why are we the only living things on earth that have to use clothes to keep us warm if we evolved from apes then why arnt women hairy aswell :laugh:
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 20:51
all of my crapola aint all worte as it should, its showing what ive seen all ready .
am always gona learn.
sorry but if you might be offended by watching a vidieo of graffic details you might not want to hear about then dont watch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2454427331207217533#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonie_(Unification_Church)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonie_(Unification_Church) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moonie_%28Unification_Church%29)
Not as scary as these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdpthiGGLZw&feature=related
mr white
19-10-2009, 21:00
all of my crapola aint all worte as it should, its showing what ive seen all ready .
am always gona learn.
sorry but if you might be offended by watching a vidieo of graffic details you might not want to hear about then dont watch.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2454427331207217533#
ever herd of albert pike!
:laugh:
Not as scary as these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdpthiGGLZw&feature=related
:laugh:
mr white
19-10-2009, 21:09
:laugh:
:laugh:
bit old for you two dont you think:laugh:
how did we all get here is the time old question i supose does get you thinking though. why are we the only living things on earth that have to use clothes to keep us warm if we evolved from apes then why arnt women hairy aswell :laugh:
Humans don't have much hair because we do have, with one other creature, also a primate, the ability to sweat.
Sweating doesn't work well if one is densely covered with hair.
In hot regions Humans don't use clothes much if at all, they are an adaption that allows a hot region species to live in cold regions.
Sweating give humans the ability to have a large brain. Without sweating that would not be possible as the Brain makes quite a lot of heat that needs to be dissipated. Sweating is what allowed the development of modern man and not sweating kept the other primates where they are, with small brains.
Sweating also allows Humans to run. We are evolved to run and we can do it for long periods during the hot part of the day when all other land dwelling creatures, that are prey for Humans, are trying just to keep cool. Humans can go and hunt them.
It's been established that apart from those still living in Africa, all Humans that exist around the planet come from one or two families that left africa about 100,000 years ago and we all share a same genetic marker.
It's thought that the pale skinned ones had moved north and lost the pigment to help them make more vitamin D, which is made in the skin when exposed to sunlight, which is a lot less intense in the North.
They've recently found Human bones in North East Africa that are, IIRC, 4 hundred thousand years old.
That would seem to put 'religion' in it's place and that place, IMO, is the dustbin!
Sorry if some of you find that opinion harsh.
mr white
19-10-2009, 22:04
Humans don't have much hair because we do have, with one other creature, also a primate, the ability to sweat.
Sweating doesn't work well if one is densely covered with hair.
In hot regions Humans don't use clothes much if at all, they are an adaption that allows a hot region species to live in cold regions.
Sweating give humans the ability to have a large brain. Without sweating that would not be possible as the Brain makes quite a lot of heat that needs to be dissipated. Sweating is what allowed the development of modern man and not sweating kept the other primates where they are, with small brains.
Sweating also allows Humans to run. We are evolved to run and we can do it for long periods during the hot part of the day when all other land dwelling creatures, that are prey for Humans, are trying just to keep cool. Humans can go and hunt them.
It's been established that apart from those still living in Africa, all Humans that exist around the planet come from one or two families that left africa about 100,000 years ago and we all share a same genetic marker.
It's thought that the pale skinned ones had moved north and lost the pigment to help them make more vitamin D, which is made in the skin when exposed to sunlight, which is a lot less intense in the North.
They've recently found Human bones in North East Africa that are, IIRC, 4 hundred thousand years old.
That would seem to put 'religion' in it's place and that place, IMO, is the dustbin!
Sorry if some of you find that opinion harsh.
i know what your saying but i dont realy belive that theroy personaly
why would are facial features change and the shape of our skulls i just don buy it:)
Umm, to make us better looking... Well, some of us anyway.
i know what your saying but i dont realy belive that theroy personaly
why would are facial features change and the shape of our skulls i just don buy it:)
Sorry, it's not a theory :)
It's fact :)
There masses of info on how characteristics within species evolve. All you have to do is go do some reading and maybe watching some good documentaries can help explain some things.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 22:21
a - you'll find ian's veiw is his own interpertaion, of somthing that explains one issue that arises in this thead, one things good for bin :scared: also i belive from my near 2 years of rtoc, he dose speak facts and rarely comments unless really intresting topic that requires attention. and then he might just give you somthing to read or might just ignore , he and other will know a lot more than what they say or talk about.
Lets face it some people can say what they feel as it creates situations.
Cheers Ian you have thrown somthing else at me to read/watch/listen about as have many others, that have contrebuted :p to this topic.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 22:27
i know what your saying but i dont realy belive that theroy personaly
why would are facial features change and the shape of our skulls i just don buy it
mr white re-open your mind my friend, anything is possiable ;)
The thing I don't get about Religeon, which is supposed to be a beleif, that's so easily proved wrong is, why do they combine the two in schools?...
I went to a Roman Catholic school and was taught both. Now, I actually made up my mind when I was 13 or 14 that I thought the bible was a load of dog ****. It's not like i've changed my mind now. But who cares what I think, as I don't care what other people think.
Now, what really got to me then, and a little bit now, is... I wrote a massive essay for my R.E GCSE about how ''God'' didn't exist and made countless facts why, yet I was awarded a ****ing ''G'' for that paper. To be honest, I thought that was the best exam paper I did. It's fairly sad that when I was doing my exams I was told you'd be automatically appointed a ''G'' for spelling your name right. I guess they didn't like me.
There masses of info on how characteristics within species evolve. All you have to do is go do some reading and maybe watching some good documentaries can help explain some things.
Ian, these guys don't want answers, that's the point. They want conjecture, intruige and to disprove everyone else. Or at least the issue is in the way they are looking, which could never lead to any sort of restful mind because there are so few solid, proveable answers to anything in this world.
Life provides the perfect conundrum.
Btw, I can't wait to see what happens when they start up the LHC to see what they discover.
Incidentally, evolution, history of the human race, scientific discoveries, the universe -- non of it clashes with my religious beliefs. It's all really interesting to me.
So Dave and Mr White, what about the Lunar Landings eh? Gosh the conspiracy, the cover up, the suicide! Boner material if you ask me...
car.crash
19-10-2009, 22:50
great so god doesnt exist, next thing you will be saying father christmas, bigfoot and nesse are all bogus too :eek:
The thing I don't get about Religeon, which is supposed to be a beleif, that's so easily proved wrong is, why do they combine the two in schools?...
I went to a Roman Catholic school and was taught both. Now, I actually made up my mind when I was 13 or 14 that I thought the bible was a load of dog ****. It's not like i've changed my mind now. But who cares what I think, as I don't care what other people think.
Now, what really got to me then, and a little bit now, is... I wrote a massive essay for my R.E GCSE about how ''God'' didn't exist and made countless facts why, yet I was awarded a ****ing ''G'' for that paper. To be honest, I thought that was the best exam paper I did. It's fairly sad that when I was doing my exams I was told you'd be automatically appointed a ''G'' for spelling your name right. I guess they didn't like me.
Mate, I was going to say that it's a shame that when most people on here are reasonably temperate and accepting of other people's beliefs; that rather than just stating your own by saying you're athiest, or you 'don't believe in God', you have to be unnecessarily harsh and say 'the bible is dog sh*t'. You're right, most people won't care what you think, until you start shouting it.
Then I realised how harsh I've been on these two.
Fair enough.
wrightygtt
19-10-2009, 23:01
The thing I don't get about Religeon, which is supposed to be a beleif, that's so easily proved wrong is, why do they combine the two in schools?...
I went to a Roman Catholic school and was taught both. Now, I actually made up my mind when I was 13 or 14 that I thought the bible was a load of dog ****. It's not like i've changed my mind now. But who cares what I think, as I don't care what other people think.
Now, what really got to me then, and a little bit now, is... I wrote a massive essay for my R.E GCSE about how ''God'' didn't exist and made countless facts why, yet I was awarded a ****ing ''G'' for that paper. To be honest, I thought that was the best exam paper I did. It's fairly sad that when I was doing my exams I was told you'd be automatically appointed a ''G'' for spelling your name right. I guess they didn't like me.
You crack me up dude:laugh:
I thought everyone took R.E Gcse because there are no right or wrong answers, you can say Jesus is a cnut and still not fail, apparently not.:laugh:
Fair indeed. I don't dislike people for what they believe in, that's never been a problem for me.
The problem in my post was when I was a kid I had beliefs pushed onto me, which I couldn't care less about, nor did I agree with. So I chose to show my belief, which made little affect:D. As a minority does.
The problem with Catholicism is that it was invented by the Roman Empire by Constantine the Third, ostensibly, it would seem, to help control the populous.
Just think for a moment; they take the brightest people, make them Monks and forbid them to procreate.
Thereby reducing IQ from the populous and with it, the ability to offer resistance to the emperor.
There was no conspiracy theory with the Romans, just slavery and brutal mass murder of anyone who disagreed with the boss, that included other Generals, disposed Generals, would be Generals. Unless it was the turn of the boss to die screaming. Etc, etc.
I think things have improved for the common man in Europe. But it's taken a long time and a 54 million person killing spree.
I recently saw an interesting Documentary on the Telly that proposed, rather compellingly, that Jesus never existed and was merely a myth created later and based on earlier myths.
The Doc was written by someone who'd been to a very strict Catholic school and later rebelled. As an adult he then decided to find out as much as he could about the events of 2000 years ago and could find nothing at all that proved the existence of big J.
dave j gtt
19-10-2009, 23:32
Fair indeed. I don't dislike people for what they believe in, that's never been a problem for me.
The problem in my post was when I was a kid I had beliefs pushed onto me, which I couldn't care less about, nor did I agree with. So I chose to show my belief, which made little affect:D. As a minority does.
I was the same boat with a difference, i was a cleaver young guy with the world at his feet and because i couldnt be controlled and was self taught/ tryed to find out for my self about anything i wanted to know about or i'd excel it that subject beyond belife to some,
It was always in areas that would make little difference to my life that i would have no intrest to that was a problem for me, so geuss what :scratch:
I have been made to do without the things i would of exceled in and was stitched up with all the crap that made me reject and learn nothing unless i taught my self or had a good teacher , that fort out side the box and or could see my talents.
I was a running athlete, very strong swimmer was offered to swim for county at a very young age, but that wasnt what i wanted to do after i tried, won and enjoy only as a hobby,
i was singled out at about 7 to start , the it became really apparent at around 12 when i wasnt alowed to do things that i enjoyed or would suceed in.
if i would have sucseed and found fortune i would have been 10-1000 times more powerful than i am now, so the reasons for my past i have only just begun to relise whatt happened,
but also whats happening to some of the youth of today who are prob in the same boat as i was , being made to do **** your nor good at or have any intrest in.
rather than leting the human lead a free life and hace the choice and opitions everyone deserves . ;)
night :cool: everything happens for a reason , i wouldnt be here today , if my course didnt take the path it did
Documentaries ''prove'' what one individual has to say, who works within the broadcasting scene. It's always plausible, like the ''big'' books write.
Clearly science goes far further back than any religeon. What I still wonder about is where did ''time'' and the whole existance start from. Now, for anyone, that's an impossibility to prove... That, for me, is what means the most.
This is where things get silly:D
Documentaries ''prove'' what one individual has to say, who works within the broadcasting scene.
Yes, but this chap seemed to be a broadcasting amateur who just put his research, theory and interviews on tape.
I'd guess that when the LHC does it's stuff, all that will happen is there'll be some better 'photos' of the known sub atomic particles plus maybe some new ones.
There are some other good questions such and where is the edge of the universe and what's outside it?
What I still wonder about is where did ''time'' and the whole existance start from.
Do you mean the existence of matter? Matter is created when two photons collide head on.
Where did the photons (energy) come from; is another good question.
dave j gtt
20-10-2009, 23:29
New poster! (less than 10 posts)
God does not judge on the persons colour but on actions done, we have hope.
:agree: we have hope. karma style ;)
I assumed it had been deleted by the commitee, and good riddance I felt :laugh:
However, maybe the website was crashed by the NWO to stop Dave 'broadcasting'.
It was moved for editting to get all the crap out. You may have spotted that it's now half the size it was, lol. Anyways, back on topic :agree:
great so god doesnt exist, next thing you will be saying father christmas, bigfoot and nesse are all bogus too :eek:
I do exist ;)
mr white
21-10-2009, 20:01
It was moved for editting to get all the crap out. You may have spotted that it's now half the size it was, lol. Anyways, back on topic :agree:
i thank you and see much of what i posted is still here :)
TNT ANDY
20-06-2012, 06:22
It says.
"I'm a penis"
Over and over and over again:wasntme:
SAM'S O.E R5
20-06-2012, 09:58
white kids have been in the minority in some parts of se london for a long time. when i left school in 1996 there was only 5 or so to a class the one part i hated about school was when they taught history not nice when the uk has conqured half the world.
Lol:laugh:
SAM'S O.E R5
20-06-2012, 10:36
This is the way I see it. DO NOT DARE shoot me down for my opinion, because it's exactly that...MY opinion and that will never change as I have my own mind. Nor do I need to justify my thoughts, the same as I wouldn't ask anyone else to.
I'm not religious, I never have been and never will be - I have no interest in it.
BUT I do have friends who are religious or have heavily religious backgrounds, it doesn't bother me in the slightest, why would it?
Like Sukhi said, I think people use religion as an excuse for everything. Can it just not be that Bin Laden was brought up in one religion but is just a bit of a w*nker? His teachings certainly do not command to kill other nations do they? Some people are just toss-pots, who gives a crap what religion they are? Evil occurs in EVERY nation and in EVERY religion, so stop pinning it on something like that.
I agree that differences in opinions have caused wars, whether religious opinions or not. My parents brought me up well to be accepting of every colour/religion/disability, it's just a shame that some people were not taught that and it causes upset to loved ones - This is what I hate the most.
There are a lot of conflicting opinions here, some I agree with and some I don't. I'm not going to judge people on how they think though. Difference in opinions and interests etc is what makes us all different - The world would be so boring if we all agreed on everything :agree:
:agree:
Ooh, I love dug-up threads that have posts from me that hark from a time when I gave a crap about anything :D
I remember the hoo-har around this time, where no end of RTOCers were sick of the constant trickle of new political and conspiracy theory type threads being started by a tiny minority of members.
As soon as the club sorted it out there was an instant and palpable sense of relief. Whilst some of the conversation was thought provoking, most of what was posted was definitely better suited to forums of that ilk.
Matt Cole
20-06-2012, 13:32
Theres a school in Hackney in which the teachers have to deal with 19 different languages! Imagine trying to teach kids when you can't even communicate with them?:confused:
Phoenix Autosport
20-06-2012, 21:18
the problem isnt the different races, the problem is there are too many people.
resources are stretched too thin and people are pissed because there is never enough of anything to go round, mainly money and jobs, this leads to a feeling of being wronged by society which then leads to people looking for answers to why this has happened. couple that with a highly visable change in society due to mass imigration and of course people who are seeing there prospects of a comfortable life diminishing are going to want to blame the obvious target,
solution is to control the size of the population and make sure each person is educated as well as possible and able to contribute as well as they are able to
not at all PC but then the truth rarely is :coffee:
jamie_clioGTT
20-06-2012, 22:22
i no its an old thread etc but some very intresting stuff there! and theres me thinking your all just grease monkeys :laugh:
This can Fudge off again what a load aof ****e... next the bottom clowns will be out again
jamie_clioGTT
20-06-2012, 22:27
This can Feck off again what a load aof ****e... next the arse clowns will be out again
remember the rules of the forum!
remember the rules of the forum!
oh dear
This can Fudge off again what a load aof ****e... next the bottom clowns will be out again
:agree:
when it come to this topic you can poke the forum rules.
You have just dug up somthing that just annoyed a massive amount of members and finaly this place isnt back in that dark period/ages...
Thought this was safely locked away deep within my Devilish Gaff? :scratch:
It is now :devil::devil::devil:
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