View Full Version : The stretched look
TrixNFlix
05-10-2009, 19:36
Ok guys got big plans for next year so thinking i like the euro stretched look.:cool:
What does it entail, ie what size tyre, rim size and width, spacers and drop is required for a decent stance. Already looked on tyrestretch.com and looked at schmidt wheels.:ashamed: dont know if i can justify 2grand just for wheels though.:laugh: Opnions please.
on a gtt, id say 13x8 rims with 175/50/13 tyres:smokin:
Don't plan on going round corners fast or driving fast at all with stretched rubber, recipe for disaster as the tyres pop off the rim easily...Does look good on show cars though.
TrixNFlix
05-10-2009, 19:52
on a gtt, id say 13x8 rims with 175/50/13 tyres:smokin:
What about 165 raj, too stretched?, looked on tyrestretch.com and alot seem to do 165.
Don't plan on going round corners fast or driving fast at all with stretched rubber, recipe for disaster as the tyres pop off the rim easily...Does look good on show cars though.
No brigsy purely as a show car minter doing about 500 miles a year in the dry.:agree:
TrixNFlix
05-10-2009, 19:58
In a ideal world these are the wheels im thinking about, in matt black with a polished lip:cool:
What about 165 raj, too stretched?, looked on tyrestretch.com and alot seem to do 165.
its entirely down to personal preference. if im totally honest, the 5 isnt the best suited car for stretched tyres.
TrixNFlix
05-10-2009, 20:22
its entirely down to personal preference. if im totally honest, the 5 isnt the best suited car for stretched tyres.
As you know we all do what alot of people would call silly things too are cars, just to keep our little minds occupied and happy.:p
Anyone know what sort of drop id be looking at, i assume coilovers are a must and spacers?
I tried it on mine,worked a treat on the front with 13"x8" but couldnt get rears on without having to jack the rear right up,
Since these cars have a lower trim line on the back arch its a big job if you want real 'stance'. raise the rear,cut rear arch trims,cut rear bumper and fabricate new rear bumper brackets....front fit no problem with a low offset or spacers tho :D
15X7 wheels ET 24
165/50/15 tyres and bang you have stretch.
13x8s wont just fit on, and your gearing will be very very very short
I personally have never had a any problems with tyres popping off. I do drive my car hard on the road. Ask Rob753.....
rs250nut
06-10-2009, 10:09
In a ideal world these are the wheels im thinking about, in matt black with a polished lip:cool:
If you look at the 306 gti-6 with schmidt th lines in my profile pics you will see that I fitted a massive ten inch wide on the rear and eight and a half on the front:smokin:
21 Stretched look ? Or am I getting confused ...
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TrixNFlix
06-10-2009, 10:40
If you look at the 306 gti-6 with schmidt th lines in my profile pics you will see that I fitted a massive ten inch wide on the rear and eight and a half on the front:smokin:
Looked at that pic last night. It's :smokin: That is the stance I would love to acheive but can't imagine it being fesible with the square arches on the r5. Mr 5 and tommyb do you have anymore pics of your wheels showing the stretch and width of the wheel in relation to the arches. Cheers andy
TrixNFlix
06-10-2009, 10:42
21 Stretched look ? Or am I getting confused ...
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I think this could be the future! :laugh:
Adey aka Ewok
06-10-2009, 13:10
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/eurorearlights.jpg
Adey aka Ewok
06-10-2009, 13:12
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/DSC00149.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/adey1984/eurorearlights.jpg
what wheels and tyres are they on that? They give that car a sweet look! I want downgrade from the 15`s to 13`s
Adey aka Ewok
06-10-2009, 13:49
cant remember the tyre size, but the wheels were ats classics, 13x7 et20 with a 25mm spacer up front and 13x8 et00 with a 19mm spacer out back, think that hooked up to be et-5 and et-19?:agree:
TrixNFlix
06-10-2009, 14:28
cant remember the tyre size, but the wheels were ats classics, 13x7 et20 with a 25mm spacer up front and 13x8 et00 with a 19mm spacer out back, think that hooked up to be et-5 and et-19?:agree:
That's the stance I'm after on a 5. :) Any ideas how much that was dropped by?
markey b
06-10-2009, 14:50
this is my bro's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v653/jamesnova/100_4716.jpg
he runs 16x7.5 with 195/40/16 toyo's and they look stretched but are safe.. so good balance of both
Adey aka Ewok
06-10-2009, 16:07
That's the stance I'm after on a 5. :) Any ideas how much that was dropped by?
only about 50mm on springs. and to those who dnt think the tyres are safe go check out the japs drifting on stretch tyres, you will not be able to push a stretched tyre that much that ull push it off the rim, if anything there harder to get off as theres no sidewall movement so the tyre cant fold off the rim
jesus in the seat of a 5
05-01-2010, 19:54
Ade , do you still have the roof rack , if so can i buy it or one perhaphs?....:D
I fancy ditching my 15s to do this :D
Gttnutter
05-01-2010, 20:54
More money being spent soon!, ditch the steels and get it back to that euro look it once had :smokin:
dangerous dave
05-01-2010, 21:01
More money being spent soon!, ditch the steels and get it back to that euro look it once had :smokin:
you gonna spend any of that money on petrol?:cooter:
Gttnutter
05-01-2010, 21:06
you gonna spend any of that money on petrol?:cooter:
:cool: what do you think :laugh:
http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php
i'm running 185 50 14 on a 8J rim
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4593/velgjesd0.jpg
in the near future i will fit 6J 14 inch wich an 155 - 55 tyre :D
A rare siting of my car!
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/kingbanus/Frontview.jpg
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j163/kingbanus/Rearview.jpg
Stretch is fine. It won't pop off, that is total, total bollocks. Just look at 1970s Formula 1 cars. Here, for example, is a shady modified car built by idiots and driven by a clueless chav crashing because of stretch:
http://wendycainphotography.com/beeoneoneoh/wallpaper/elfstretch.jpg
Big Steve - Raider
06-01-2010, 17:16
You still got that TK or did you trade it in for the Beetle??
Still got it mate. Will never sell!
If anyone can make the Tyrrell picture smaller, go mental. :agree:
markey b
06-01-2010, 18:37
TK please donate your wheels to my raider appeal...
i'll even send you an SAE and send pics back so you wont miss them :laugh:
Tom, I'll straight swap you my Willy wheels for your wheels :smokin: :D
I love stretched tyres, look cool, i saw a stretch on some turbines that looked very good, it was on a lupo however and im not sure what sized tyre it was on there.
I love stretched tyres, look cool, i saw a stretch on some turbines that looked very good, it was on a lupo however and im not sure what sized tyre it was on there.
That would be a 165/50/15 :agree:
Big Steve - Raider
07-01-2010, 10:21
Does the thinner tyres used worsen the grip/handlling of the car on the road compared to say 195/185 section tyres???
I would imagine a thinner tyre albeit stretched would give you less grip?
Does the thinner tyres used worsen the grip/handlling of the car on the road compared to say 195/185 section tyres???
I would imagine a thinner tyre albeit stretched would give you less grip?
With a stretched tyre, the sidewall is pretty much solid so the car would feel like its on 'rails'...I would imagine understeer could be a problem :crap:
With a non stretched tyre, the tyre would have more give before you started losing grip.
Thats what Im thinking...:coffee:
TrixNFlix
07-01-2010, 11:50
I love stretched tyres, look cool, i saw a stretch on some turbines that looked very good, it was on a lupo however and im not sure what sized tyre it was on there.
This what I'm talking about. Any pics? This is what I think I'm gona do with mine with 30 mm hubcentric spacers.
i did take a pic but i lost it.. im going to be fitting a new set of rubber to my turbines soon aswell as some fresh paint so i will probably go for a stretch then.
Something like this, turbines using bridgestone re040's, 165 50 15's you can also get nankang's in the same size for cheaper but not as good tyre!
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/g10far/51.jpg
http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt79/g10far/5.jpg
Markey Mark (BD)
07-01-2010, 14:22
Those turbines are just like a set my mate had on his Raider, did look nice but the stretched tyres didn't last long. Since it had 220bhp it soon wore them out being there was less tread on the road
Very mild stretch on the turbines.
How is there less tread on the road? Unless the stretch is INSANE, its only the sidewall that is affected.
Ultimately this is not really a performance mod whichever way you spin it, so one for stance whores only.
Markey Mark (BD)
07-01-2010, 14:45
Very mild stretch on the turbines.
How is there less tread on the road? Unless the stretch is INSANE, its only the sidewall that is affected.
Ultimately this is not really a performance mod whichever way you spin it, so one for stance whores only.
To get the stretch he wanted he went witha thinner tyre than normal so if the tyres thinner then there will be less surface area on the road than a normal tyre on a turbine.
Yeah your right in what you say, it is more of a look thing deffinately not a performance one.
I told my mate not to do it but in the end it was his car, he liked it.
Turbines with stretched tyres look good, i assume they have been spaced out a fair bit as mine sit further in the arches.
To get the stretch he wanted he went witha thinner tyre than normal so if the tyres thinner then there will be less surface area on the road than a normal tyre on a turbine.
Yeah your right in what you say, it is more of a look thing deffinately not a performance one.
I told my mate not to do it but in the end it was his car, he liked it.
Kapeesh. A fair point - I guess that's the result of trying to get stretch on gay boy 6.5J or 7Js! Go for manly 8.5J and you end up with a similar tyre width to recommended tyre width on a fail rim.
Rob@Backyardracing
07-01-2010, 18:32
Some nice pics here....:agree: wish i went for wider rear rim on the 5 and stretched with the ATS`s, was worried about having to cut body work tho (which wasnt an option).. Got two sets of porsche Fuchs sat at work i was thinking of fitting on the 5 for this summer but would have to do the 5 stud conversion.. Just dont have the time to do much with my 5 :cry:
markey b
07-01-2010, 18:33
5 stud is easy, golf adaptors and get the rear ones chamfered to clear the rear caliper/pad and all of the centre bores will need enlarging as golfswagens are smaller diameter
Turbines with stretched tyres look good, i assume they have been spaced out a fair bit as mine sit further in the arches.
Yeah dont run them anymore, but iirc they were 15mm hubcentric spacers on the back and ten on the front! they sat just a tad better in the arches!!!!!
Rob@Backyardracing
07-01-2010, 22:27
5 stud is easy, golf adaptors and get the rear ones chamfered to clear the rear caliper/pad and all of the centre bores will need enlarging as golfswagens are smaller diameter
All my hubs are VW fitment now, ive machined them down as i didnt want to mill my ATS classics out (would only have a smaller market to sell them too if i machined them out and want to ever sell them on to any VW owners not wanting to run spigot rings) if you get me... :) Plus i have a larger option of wheels to fit without having to set the miller up every time i swap wheels, and ill just use spigot rings if i have too for renault wheels... Ive managed to fit my classics on rear without any spacers, so my caliper pad carrier is less than half the thickness than what it use to be, also my pad has a rather large chamfer... sounds all anal but i really was worried about catching the wheel on the body kit and damaging the body... :scared:
All my hubs are VW fitment now, ive machined them down as i didnt want to mill my ATS classics out (would only have a smaller market to sell them too if i machined them out and want to ever sell them on to any VW owners not wanting to run spigot rings) if you get me... :) Plus i have a larger option of wheels to fit without having to set the miller up every time i swap wheels, and ill just use spigot rings if i have too for renault wheels... Ive managed to fit my classics on rear without any spacers, so my caliper pad carrier is less than half the thickness than what it use to be, also my pad has a rather large chamfer... sounds all anal but i really was worried about catching the wheel on the body kit and damaging the body... :scared:
Amen to that, VW hub center is the way forwards :cool:
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