Uprated Gearbox?

[Big Supes]

Just wondering if anyone knows what the best solution is for running big power?

[Ian S]

Fit the VAG box. Or pay Scoff to, if he has time that is.

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Just wondering if anyone knows what the best solution is for running big power?

Depends how much power your running, most people still use the original gearbox with no problems. Only really high power i recon you'll need to start upgrading

[Ian S]

Yeah, sorry, I was assuming that no-one calls up to 240 bhp big power these days as that's almost the 'normal'. :)

I was thinking a reference to big power meant nearer to 300.

[Big Supes]

Yeah, sorry, I was assuming that no-one calls up to 240 bhp big power these days as that's almost the 'normal'. :)

I was thinking a reference to big power meant nearer to 300.

Really? When I joined the club and started talking about 250bhp, the responses I got made me feel as if I was talking about breaking the sound barrier. :laugh:

If the standard box can handle around 250bhp, I won't bother. I was just cautious as a couple of peeps mentioned the box wouldn't last long at that power.....

Also, what's a VAG box?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

VAG - Volksawagen Audi Group

[Big Supes]

Cheers, so which box can you horseshoe on?

[Scoff]

supes, your assuming Ian is talking only about C1J. as mark says, standard gearbox will do you fine.

[Big Supes]

supes, your assuming Ian is talking only about C1J. as mark says, standard gearbox will do you fine.

Ahh cool... that's good to hear. I may just get mine looked over then before it all goes back in. :agree::)

Just out of curiosity, what engine was Ian talking about?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Just out of curiosity, what engine was Ian talking about?

Clio 1.8 16v, Williams, Clio 172/182, Volkswagen 1.8T, Volvo 480T etc. All can be made to make big power with some work

[Big Supes]

Clio 1.8 16v, Williams, Clio 172/182, Volkswagen 1.8T, Volvo 480T etc. All can be made to make big power with some work

Oh, my bad... I just assumed the C1J would be default engine in this section. I've never considered transplanting something else in the 5.... kinda attached to the C1J. Great little engine.

[J$£5GTT]

standard box is fine mate,anyways easy job to change on a sat morning.
:p

[Big Supes]

Mine's already on it's second box..... really can't be arsed to be changing them every 4 months. Had that with my 200sx.

Less work, the better. :D

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Mine's already on it's second box..... really can't be arsed to be changing them every 4 months.

Less work, the better. :D

Having it freshened up is prob a good thing to have done if it out, that will make it last longer

[Scoff]

Just out of curiosity, what engine was Ian talking about?

Well no, I ment that he wasn't talking soley about C1J, because in the scheme of things 240hp is not a right lot these days. It's still as much as you're likely to get from a C1J, without a lot of work though.

[Big Supes]

Having it freshened up is prob a good thing to have done if it out, that will make it last longer

Not sure where you guys are from, but could you recommend someone that could overhaul my box in the South?

[Markey Mark (BD)]

Not sure where you guys are from, but could you recommend someone that could overhaul my box in the South?

I got someone local who does them for me, last one i had done cost £190.

I'm in Aylesbury which is south east

[Big Supes]

Well no, I ment that he wasn't talking soley about C1J, because in the scheme of things 240hp is not a right lot these days. It's still as much as you're likely to get from a C1J, without a lot of work though.

The power figures have definitely gone up over the years. My 200sx was running close to 300bhp and even then, that became quite normal.

I like the idea of pushing the envelope with the C1J... maybe it'll be done one day. Will have to see how I get on once it's all dialed in after the rebuild.

[Big Supes]

I got someone local who does them for me, last one i had done cost £190.

I'm in Aylesbury which is south east

That's quite a fair price, but I suppose it depends on what will need changing.....

To be honest, I'd probably prefer to ship it to someone who I know will do a proper job, instead of taking a gamble locally...

[J$£5GTT]

these two currant boxes that have given up on you,i take it that there donor second hand boxes?,which can be fine but if your expecting to run big power then there not going to last long are they,your not gna know the mileage etc,new box built well should last you longer i would have thought.
:agree:

[Markey Mark (BD)]

That's quite a fair price, but I suppose it depends on what will need changing.....

To be honest, I'd probably prefer to ship it to someone who I know will do a proper job, instead of taking a gamble locally...

He's knows what he's doing, built the box's on both my 5 with both engines. He's my local engine engineer, does engine refurbishment and gearbox's also

[J$£5GTT]

That's quite a fair price, but I suppose it depends on what will need changing.....

To be honest, I'd probably prefer to ship it to someone who I know will do a proper job, instead of taking a gamble locally...



:scratch:who's that then?

[Big Supes]

these two currant boxes that have given up on you,i take it that there donor second hand boxes?,which can be fine but if your expecting to run big power then there not going to last long are they,your not gna know the mileage etc,new box built well should last you longer i would have thought.
:agree:

Yeah mate.... the first box was the original (164k miles:eek:), but the second box I had overhauled by a blokey up the road from me. All in all it cost me £100 and then 6 months later after fitting it... it was fooked. :crap:

[Big Supes]

He's knows what he's doing, built the box's on both my 5 with both engines. He's my local engine engineer, does engine refurbishment and gearbox's also

Sweet.... do you reckon you could PM his contact details?

:)

[The new Bill J]

Yeah mate.... the first box was the original (164k miles:eek:

They can last for 200k with a lot more power/torque than standard.

[TrixNFlix]

They can last for 200k with a lot more power/torque than standard.

For What reason were they built so strong for in the first place?

[Big Supes]

They can last for 200k with a lot more power/torque than standard.

Over double the standard power/torque output is pretty impressive. :)

[Mudslinger]

Yeah, sorry, I was assuming that no-one calls up to 240 bhp big power these days as that's almost the 'normal'. :)

I was thinking a reference to big power meant nearer to 300.

really, its taken me 5 years to get my c1j to 230bhp@wheels(im assuming your bhp quoted is flywheel power), last rr day at motoscope there was only 1 other c1j 5 that made more power and that was glens with the nos .
although if i were to fit a slightly bigger turbo im sure ill be knocking on the 300 mark @wheels

my gearbox seems to be handling the extra torque with no probs although it will be interesting to see how it handles a bit more girp once i get new tyres , its just a rebuilt standard box with gripper diff fitted .

[Scoff]

like I said above mud, I don't think Ian was refering soley to C1J.

[Big Supes]

Scoff, you have PM.

:)