**HELP**

Bought a car car last saturday and all seemed well until i saw this https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=2166

and also a sale thread from an old member here https://www.rtoc.org/boards/showthread.php?t=2696

Now in the first thread it mentions the guy "buys ringers and sells em on"

and in the second one the seller says the car is "hpi clear"

So why when i became worried and did an hpi check did it come back as "cat c write off in 1998 with no record of a vic test" !!!!!!!!!!

needless to say im pretty worried iv bought a duffer here which is a shame as its my very first 5gtt and runs like a dream :cry:

Firstly is there any evidence of a crash or repair work to the car? Did they say what type of accident its been involoved in?
I would check over the whole car closely for any signs of a smash or repair.

Also check the chassis number ontop of the drivers side suspension strut, it should be stamped there. Check its the same as the V5 you have or even if its there, if not it may sound harse but scrap some paint off to see if its been painted/filled or ground off for any reason.

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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Firstly is there any evidence of a crash or repair work to the car? Did they say what type of accident its been involoved in?
I would check over the whole car closely for any signs of a smash or repair.

Also check the chassis number ontop of the drivers side suspension strut, it should be stamped there. Check its the same as the V5 you have or even if its there, if not it may sound harse but scrap some paint off to see if its been painted/filled or ground off for any reason.

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bodywork is absolutly sound as a pound mate no signs of a crash or cut/shut and minimal rust!

Im just worried im driving around in an illigal car tbh!

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Originally Posted by ScottGT

bodywork is absolutly sound as a pound mate no signs of a crash or cut/shut and minimal rust!

Im just worried im driving around in an illigal car tbh!

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Have you check underneath, chassis legs, back panel and floor? Any signs of new panels? Do you know if its been paintedin the past?

Its worth really checking it all over just to be on the safe side, as you say if you are you want to know about it

What about the colour of the panels behind the interiour cards? It could be a bit suspect if you've got more colours inside than Andy Cooke used to on the outside...

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Originally Posted by Markey Mark (BD)

Have you check underneath, chassis legs, back panel and floor? Any signs of new panels? Do you know if its been paintedin the past?

Its worth really checking it all over just to be on the safe side, as you say if you are you want to know about it

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unfortuantly its had a total respray but i have had it up in the air and it all seems fine its definalty a solid car so do you think the dvla just never updated the systems?

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Originally Posted by ScottGT

unfortuantly its had a total respray but i have had it up in the air and it all seems fine its definalty a solid car so do you think the dvla just never updated the systems?

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If they were never informed then they wouldn't update it so thats prob the reason why.

Check the chassis number, see if you have the original shell on the V5 to the number plate.

As Adam says also worth checking behind the panels for evidence of work or paint

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Originally Posted by Adam L

What about the colour of the panels behind the interiour cards? It could be a bit suspect if you've got more colours inside than Andy Cooke used to on the outside...

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re fitted the back seats and panels so thats all ok on the inside but dunno about the doors would have to check!

Typicly i have found this all out while the 5 is at a garage having a rather expensive alarm fited :cry:

If the accident was in 1998 i dont think it needed a VIC test as i think this was a modern idea... remember 1998 was 11 years ago now...

Its defo worth checking the car all over (personally i would have a decent MOT test centre go off it with a fine tooth combe. (£35-50) for a Fresh MOT these days.

Check the normal points such as chassis number, look to see if its been tampered with, If you can go along to the MOT and talk to the tester, ask them to look for any major signs of an accident & if they would mind you looking under the car for damage etc.

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Originally Posted by Penfold

If the accident was in 1998 i dont think it needed a VIC test as i think this was a modern idea... remember 1998 was 11 years ago now...

Its defo worth checking the car all over (personally i would have a decent MOT test centre go off it with a fine tooth combe. (£35-50) for a Fresh MOT these days.

Check the normal points such as chassis number, look to see if its been tampered with, If you can go along to the MOT and talk to the tester, ask them to look for any major signs of an accident & if they would mind you looking under the car for damage etc.

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it went through an mot last week after having "normal" r5 problems addressed ie loose exhaust wobbly seat frame etc and not being able to ring for insurence until tues day it spent sat evening all day sun and mon at my best mates garage being checked and cleaned by ourselves.

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Originally Posted by ScottGT

it went through an mot last week after having "normal" r5 problems addressed ie loose exhaust wobbly seat frame etc and not being able to ring for insurence until tues day it spent sat evening all day sun and mon at my best mates garage being checked and cleaned by ourselves.

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I take it that was a legit MOT as well... I wouldnt worry to much about the car's history... if it drives well, go through an MOT then jobs a good un...

You could always ring the DVLA and ask about the Cat C in 1998 & if it needed a VIC etc etc.

Ring the DVLA? Are you serious?:laugh:

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Originally Posted by Adam L

Ring the DVLA? Are you serious?:laugh:

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TBH they worked out pretty well for me when i have a few questions... but now days i just pop into my local DVLA office... just have to be prepared to wait sometimes.

When i've rang them in the past its been a nightmare, none of them know what they're doing. I've usually been asked to write to them in the end. Ah well.

Scott, I dont know where you're based, but if you need a hand with anything, drop me a PM.

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Originally Posted by Penfold

I take it that was a legit MOT as well... I wouldnt worry to much about the car's history... if it drives well, go through an MOT then jobs a good un...

You could always ring the DVLA and ask about the Cat C in 1998 & if it needed a VIC etc etc.

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I think thats what im going to have to do!
Thankyou for your help ;)

Just ask DVLA if the car has a VIC marker on it if not then your good to go and you won't need a VIC inspection check.Remember that Cat C doesn't necessarly mean that the car has been crashed, just means that its been damaged excessivley enough for the insurers to declare it un-economical to repair, N.B. Paintwork could have been covered in battery acid.

Back in 2001 my gt was classed as a cat c due to needing a wing/bumper and head light after being knocked when parked up:wasntme::wasntme:

I personally think your worrying about nothing if it drives ok & is mechanically sound :)

Yep, mine got written off last Nov. All that it needed was the n/s mirror re-painting, new n/s front wheel arch bodykit ( deep scratch ) and a new front bumper ( mounting points damaged ) :cry:

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Originally Posted by Brigsy

I personally think your worrying about nothing if it drives ok & is mechanically sound :)

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Not if it needed a VIC test and hasn't had one. Insurance could be null and void if discovered in the event of an accident.

if it needed a vic test in the past & did'nt go,then there would be no logbook!! dvla keep it on hold until it has passed the test!!

so if you have the logbook you'l be fine :)

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Originally Posted by Nayls

if it needed a vic test in the past & did'nt go,then there would be no logbook!! dvla keep it on hold until it has passed the test!!

so if you have the logbook you'l be fine :)

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if that's the case then good comment. :agree: